This is a bit surprising to me. I haven't seen many Cruise cars on SF roads in the last few months. I've seen a hell of a lot of Waymo, on the other hand. Separate thought: > I’m still surprised I can even write those words — this moment really snuck up on me. This seems to be poorly worded PR considering how much general worry there is over the safety of self-driving cars. If I were writing it, I would have phrased…
Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
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Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
#32Based on this image: https://images.ctfassets.net/95kuvdv8zn1v/6h1C7lPC79OLOlddEE... They and their VC backers are clearly betting on the concept that radars + lidar + imaging will be the ultimate successful solution in full self driving cars, as a completely opposite design and engineering philosophy from Tesla attempting to do "full self driving" with camera sensors and categorical rejection of lidar. It is interes…
Does 50 miles of geofenced and daily mapped streets mean Cruise won self driving?
What if Waymo gets to 20k miles of geofenced roads and monthly mapped?
What if Tesla gets to the point of one intervention/crash every 100k miles? 10M Miles?
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#33What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?
I would much rather prefer my own private car than one being driven by someone else. It'll be interesting to see if the level of cleanliness though as most drivers tend to take care of their car because it's their car. If someone throws up in one of these cars does it know or does it just show up to the next pickup?
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. In mid-December, with caseloads similar to now, the asymptomatic positivity rate was around 15%, so you can roughly put the chances of your driver being infected with COVID-19 at around 15%. So, right now, I'd feel safer in a driverless cab. (Of course, that calculus changes as the number of cases changes, which is right now happening ra…
>The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. Based on what? Certainly not RO
Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
#35This is a bit surprising to me. I haven't seen many Cruise cars on SF roads in the last few months. I've seen a hell of a lot of Waymo, on the other hand. Separate thought: > I’m still surprised I can even write those words — this moment really snuck up on me. This seems to be poorly worded PR considering how much general worry there is over the safety of self-driving cars. If I were writing it, I would have phrased…
Some times I will see a fleet of Waymo cars in quick succession, going through seemingly the same route
Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
#36What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?
Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. In mid-December, with caseloads similar to now, the asymptomatic positivity rate was around 15%, so you can roughly put the chances of your driver being infected with COVID-19 at around 15%. So, right now, I'd feel safer in a driverless cab. (Of course, that calculus changes as the number of cases changes, which is right now happening ra…
>The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. Based on what? Certainly not RO
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
It will likely be cheaper (maybe not initially), but more restrictive in pickup/drop-off and availability (ETA).
Don't you mean less restrictive? A human might have preferences against areas that a computer might not. Further if it's cheaper and less complex to operate (not dealing with employees is a significant decrease in complexity) I would expect more car owners to enter the market and provide services.
Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
#39Based on this image: https://images.ctfassets.net/95kuvdv8zn1v/6h1C7lPC79OLOlddEE... They and their VC backers are clearly betting on the concept that radars + lidar + imaging will be the ultimate successful solution in full self driving cars, as a completely opposite design and engineering philosophy from Tesla attempting to do "full self driving" with camera sensors and categorical rejection of lidar. It is interes…
What is success? Does 50 miles of geofenced and daily mapped streets mean Cruise won self driving? What if Waymo gets to 20k miles of geofenced roads and monthly mapped? What if Tesla gets to the point of one intervention/crash every 100k miles? 10M Miles?
I think Tesla is right that to solve it for real you need to solve the general case which can’t rely on high resolution maps.
The city cab case is smaller and can, so the cruise approach makes sense for that use case. It’s just narrower.
Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco
#40What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?
Not risking kidnapping, sexual assault, etc.—or even just “this person won't shut up”—from the driver.
> Is it cheaper?
Eventually, though perhaps not initially.