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Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

Eventually I think it will reach a point where it’s safer too. The car doesn’t get tired, meanwhile I’ve had plenty of taxi/uber rides where the driver has been driving long, long hours.

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#12

What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. In mid-December, with caseloads similar to now, the asymptomatic positivity rate was around 15%, so you can roughly put the chances of your driver being infected with COVID-19 at around 15%. So, right now, I'd feel safer in a driverless cab. (Of course, that calculus changes as the number of cases changes, which is right now happening rapidly.)

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

#13

What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

It will likely be cheaper (maybe not initially), but more restrictive in pickup/drop-off and availability (ETA).

Don't you mean less restrictive? A human might have preferences against areas that a computer might not. Further if it's cheaper and less complex to operate (not dealing with employees is a significant decrease in complexity) I would expect more car owners to enter the market and provide services.

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#14

What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

At least in the UK, one of the most prolific serial rapists was a licensed taxi driver (not even an Uber driver (who get a lot of stick about not being as safe as "real" taxis) - but a licensed and supposedly-vetted London black taxi driver). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Worboys So I guess safety is a major plus based on that.

Totally illogical supposition. I'll bet a lot more taxi drivers have rescued people in trouble than assaulted them, a young female relative of mine was rescued by a passing taxi driver from a dicey situation outside Sheperds Bush tube station. The chances of thugs standing in front of future driverless vehicles like highway robbers to stop them is very high, especially if the predators can see their prey has something of value to them

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. In mid-December, with caseloads similar to now, the asymptomatic positivity rate was around 15%, so you can roughly put the chances of your driver being infected with COVID-19 at around 15%. So, right now, I'd feel safer in a driverless cab. (Of course, that calculus changes as the number of cases changes, which is right now happening ra…

>The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind.

Based on what? Certainly not RO

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

At least in the UK, one of the most prolific serial rapists was a licensed taxi driver (not even an Uber driver (who get a lot of stick about not being as safe as "real" taxis) - but a licensed and supposedly-vetted London black taxi driver). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Worboys So I guess safety is a major plus based on that.

I’ve always heard the opposite, that real taxis are significantly more dangerous.

Ubers are sent directly to you, and everyone’s identity has been verified.

Compare that to flagging down a random taxi, where you have no idea who the person is before you get in the car.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Based on this image: https://images.ctfassets.net/95kuvdv8zn1v/6h1C7lPC79OLOlddEE... They and their VC backers are clearly betting on the concept that radars + lidar + imaging will be the ultimate successful solution in full self driving cars, as a completely opposite design and engineering philosophy from Tesla attempting to do "full self driving" with camera sensors and categorical rejection of lidar. It is interes…

Yeah, but that's not a tech issue. The few thousand that have the full self driving beta just have the opt-in option to turn on rolling stops. That just has to be removed in their next update.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in the UK, one of the most prolific serial rapists was a licensed taxi driver (not even an Uber driver (who get a lot of stick about not being as safe as "real" taxis) - but a licensed and supposedly-vetted London black taxi driver). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Worboys So I guess safety is a major plus based on that.

Totally illogical supposition. I'll bet a lot more taxi drivers have rescued people in trouble than assaulted them, a young female relative of mine was rescued by a passing taxi driver from a dicey situation outside Sheperds Bush tube station. The chances of thugs standing in front of future driverless vehicles like highway robbers to stop them is very high, especially if the predators can see their prey has somethin…

We can do anecdotes back and forth, but many people would absolutely love “Uber but there’s not a stranger in the front seat.”

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

#19
This is a bit surprising to me. I haven't seen many Cruise cars on SF roads in the last few months. I've seen a hell of a lot of Waymo, on the other hand.

Separate thought:

> I’m still surprised I can even write those words — this moment really snuck up on me.

This seems to be poorly worded PR considering how much general worry there is over the safety of self-driving cars. If I were writing it, I would have phrased it along the lines of "I've been waiting months and months for this. We've been ready for months but we understandably had to triple-check all our compliance etc."

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

The Omicron variant of COVID-19 is the most infectious disease known to mankind. In mid-December, with caseloads similar to now, the asymptomatic positivity rate was around 15%, so you can roughly put the chances of your driver being infected with COVID-19 at around 15%. So, right now, I'd feel safer in a driverless cab. (Of course, that calculus changes as the number of cases changes, which is right now happening ra…

Omicron is the "live vaccine" variant of COVID-19. I've had it and it was no problem.
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