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Framework Raises $18M Series A

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I've come very close to buying a Framework laptop a few times, but I'd only want to run Linux on it and wasn't sure how well it was supported. How are things like wifi, sleep and battery life under Linux?

Elevated Systems did a comprehensive setup guide a couple days ago. There are a some extra steps to go through, but it seems to work well with Ubuntu 21.10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jibqw5C3gk8&t=15m45s - timestamp to where he discusses fixing sleep issues

Thank you for link to the video. I watched the relevant part, where it's suggested to set pcie_aspm_on_bat=powersupersave. According to the Framework forums, this is not helping and people see 7-8W power consumption while in this "powersupersave" mode ([1]).

It sounds like the setting is there, but it does not work. Framework needs to fix that.

1. https://community.frame.work/t/issues-with-power-usage/12261

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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Edited: We've posted in the February Who's Hiring thread too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30165535

I hope you guys crush it, you can become the next Apple - the future of computing!

If they IPO they'll be evil like everyone else eventually. I hope they become the next developer choice, the market is definitely big enough.

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> We’re not ready to share what the next products are just yet, but this funding unlocks categories even more ambitious than our first one. We have a detailed plan in place for the next two years and napkin sketch ideas going out a couple of decades. It'll be really interesting to see where they go next. Given that they're already in computer and custom board space, I'd make a guess that it's going to be routers - si…

I hope they start by offering larger laptops - I tend to prefer 17". I was looking at Framework when buying a new laptop last year but as they only offered the smaller model (and weren't shipping to the EU at the time) I went with a Dell. Obviously I hope my current laptop lasts as long as possible but if/when it gives up the ghost I would be very interested in buying a Framework if they are offering a 17" by then.

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I'm running Xubuntu on mine and it works fine. Battery life goes down pretty quick when sleeping, and battery life is definitely lower than Windows, but I can still get 4-5 hours of actual work on it.

>Battery life goes down pretty quick when sleeping Thank you for confirming. I guess I will have to wait until an improved version of Framework that supports proper sleep.

After changing a couple of Group Policy sleep settings in Windows 10, and removing some expansion modules, my framework Laptop uses around 300 mW while asleep. That means it takes the whole night before it drains 5% off the battery (and switches to hibernate). I haven’t yet replicated this in Linux, but I assume it’s possible (someone can correct me if I’m wrong). Im not sure yet whether it was the settings changes, or certain expansion modules which affect standby drain the most, but I’ve seen forum discussions where people were making progress narrowing it down, and I think the framework peeps were going to look into it. I will do more experimenting today. Unrelated, but I have been most impressed with the framework guys already adding two BIOS settings I love based on other peoples’ feedback (dimming the power led & max battery charge).

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Is there a miniature ASIO soundcard planned for one of the slots? Not needing to carry an external audio interface around when working within a DAW is a major factor that's keeping me on MacOS (both pro audio and consumer use the same driver there).

You don't need "professional" drivers for your sound card in 2022, latency and stability are mostly a solved problem. There are a few "nice to haves" about ASIO on Windows but it's almost entirely useless, and it's not like Steinberg is maintaining ASIO anymore.

Re: Framework Raises $18M Series A

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+1. I'm holding on buying a Framework laptop because I've heard that it does not support proper sleep. It would be great to hear if the issues with heating / losing battery when sleeping in a backpack are real or not.

There's 2 supported sleep modes, referred to as "s2idle" and "deep" in /sys/power/mem_sleep. My limited understanding is this: - "s2idle" = S0ix and "deep" = S3 - S0ix is similar to how smartphones go to sleep by just idling everything and not actually sleeping. On the Framework it drains around 1 or 2% per hour (I haven't measured exactly.) - S3 sleep is the more familiar suspend-to-RAM functionality. The power drai…

Thank you for adding these details.

My current Linux laptop (released in 2015) can sleep for about week, resume in 3-4 seconds. Am I reading your comment correctly that buying a Framework would degrade my user experience?

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This website showed to me in French while I have my browser in English and am in the Netherlands. If I want to switch to Dutch, it won't let me. My basic understanding of French is that this product is not yet available in my country. Still horrible experience. Why not show me the English page? This website makes the wrong assumption someone's language is tied to the location.

May be this will help https://frame.work/fr/fr/locale/edit

Unfortunately, it does not. Country and language are still coupled, so there's no way place a pre-order with shipping destination France with the website language set to English, for example.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30166510

As mentioned there, for countries like Switzerland with more than two languages, whichever language chosen would be wrong for a majority.

I'd even claim that for the market they're targeting, having English and nothing else for all regions would likely be way better than the current situation.

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Love my Framework. Barring Apple's recent move away from the touchbar it's honestly the first machine I've been excited about in 6 or so years. The build quality is great, love the simplicity and design of the expansion ports, and the repair/upgrade-ability is huge. It's gotten me back into using Linux as a daily driver. I really hope they stay true to their vision and that this means expanding it into other consumer…

I've come very close to buying a Framework laptop a few times, but I'd only want to run Linux on it and wasn't sure how well it was supported. How are things like wifi, sleep and battery life under Linux?

I'm still waiting on a display that will 2x nicely. Fractional scaling on Linux is not my idea of a good time. It's crazy, because they only need to add a couple hundred lines of resolution and it would be perfect.
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