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Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by abirch »

acatton wrote: post #133
abirch wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netezza, Greenplum, Red Shift and CoachroachDB are all Postgres forks. Postgre is pretty popular as well, at least for the recruiters who spam me.

CockroachDB is not a fork of Postgres, it's a NewSQL database written from scratch, compatible with the PostgreSQL protocol, and aiming at being SQL compatible with Postgres. I think you were thinking about YugabyteDB which is a wrapper/fork around Postgres.

No, I was flat out wrong about CockroachDB. Thanks for correcting me.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by ergonaught »

mikece wrote: post #24

A public company will have a board of directors who set the direction of the company; as such what is to stop the board from directing that the license be changed?

They cannot change the license for the GPL code for which they do not own copyright, which is everything forked from MySQL proper.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by SloopJon »

mikece wrote: post #24

A public company will have a board of directors who set the direction of the company; as such what is to stop the board from directing that the license be changed?

I always thought of MariaDB as a fork of GPLed MySQL code that is now owned by Oracle. However, I see that MariaDB uses a contributor agreement, and reserves some features for a proprietary(?) enterprise edition.

Do I misunderstand the copyright status of MySQL/MariaDB, or has MariaDB been clever about how it adds features to the GPL core, such that they're not legally derivative works?

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by stjohnswarts »

capableweb wrote: post #6

> MariaDB, Fast Growing, Popular Open Source Database Software Company No matter how I turn and adjust the parameters, MariaDB seems to be the least popular of the big databases on the market today ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... ) and looking long-term (2004-preset), it seems like it's popularity is going down, not up ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MariaDB ).…

I don't know why anyone would use it outside of the need for some legacy mysql stuff or something. For me it is always postgresql or sqlite (I have never had to work with a nosql solution) depending on the situation.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by stjohnswarts »

capableweb wrote: post #6

> MariaDB, Fast Growing, Popular Open Source Database Software Company No matter how I turn and adjust the parameters, MariaDB seems to be the least popular of the big databases on the market today ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... ) and looking long-term (2004-preset), it seems like it's popularity is going down, not up ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MariaDB ).…

I don't know why anyone would use it outside the need for some legacy MySQL stuff or something. For me, it is always PostgreSQL or SQLite (I have never had to work with a NoSQL solution) depending on the situation.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by schnevets »

JJMcJ wrote: post #34
fullstop wrote: post #4

The creator of MySQL named it after his daughter, "My". After it was forked, the fork was named after his other daughter, "Maria". He has three children, so we've got one more go at this with a MaxDB if needed. edit: I was wrong -- He already used MaxDB previously. We're out of names.

Don't forget cousin Postgres.

And that mischievous brat who lives down the street, Mongo.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by pjmlp »

abirch wrote: post #95
pradn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an interesting push-and-pull here. Keep the existing dialect to make it easy to switch, or add differentiating features that may introduce dialect incompatibility. An issue as old as time for SQL DBs.

Microsoft's infamous embrace and extend strategy. Word Perfect works with Word, but Word doesn't work with Word Perfect.

Word Perfect doesn't have anyone to blame but themselves,

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8163741

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by stjohnswarts »

johncena33 wrote: post #27
yrgulation wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am an almost daily user of mariadb. However, when i google anything mariadb query wise i instead type mysql. As the two dialects are nearly identical but there is more documentation available for the mysql search keyword on google.

You should use bing or duckduckgo. I've been hearing lately on HN that they are many orders better than Google.

Many orders? Come on. I have had better results on one or the other and flip between them but not “orders of magnitude” different.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by holoduke »

ksec wrote: post #21
capableweb wrote: post #6

> MariaDB, Fast Growing, Popular Open Source Database Software Company No matter how I turn and adjust the parameters, MariaDB seems to be the least popular of the big databases on the market today ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... ) and looking long-term (2004-preset), it seems like it's popularity is going down, not up ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MariaDB ).…

Most are either sticking with MySQL ( which is still working fine ) or moved to PostgreSQL. MariaDB is sort of in a very odd position. Had Oracle completely abandoned MySQL like they did with Solaris it would have been an easier choice to move to Maria. Instead they nurture it like they did with Java. Although I am wondering if they will ever release 9.0.

We are running mariadb for many years on a 50k request per second app. Works pretty fine. Why should we migrate to postgress? I know many mid sized projects relying on MariaDb. It's a stable database proven in many different scenarios.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by pjmlp »

ksec wrote: post #21
capableweb wrote: post #6

> MariaDB, Fast Growing, Popular Open Source Database Software Company No matter how I turn and adjust the parameters, MariaDB seems to be the least popular of the big databases on the market today ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... ) and looking long-term (2004-preset), it seems like it's popularity is going down, not up ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MariaDB ).…

Most are either sticking with MySQL ( which is still working fine ) or moved to PostgreSQL. MariaDB is sort of in a very odd position. Had Oracle completely abandoned MySQL like they did with Solaris it would have been an easier choice to move to Maria. Instead they nurture it like they did with Java. Although I am wondering if they will ever release 9.0.

Solaris might not get Linux level updates, but cool stuff like hardware memory tagging by default on SPARC has been done during Oracle ownership.

Most mainstream OSes are yet to catch up to Solaris SPARC on this regard.

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