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Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by evanelias »

eatonphil wrote: post #44
evanelias wrote: post #33

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These days, most smaller users go with a managed DBaaS such as AWS RDS, and on RDS MySQL gets massively more usage than MariaDB. I build schema management software for MySQL and MariaDB, https://www.skeema.io , used by several hundred companies. Among my userbase, MariaDB is a tiny minority, to such an extent that I wonder if it's worthwhile to continue keeping up with their new quarterly release schedule.

Is it possible MariaDB registers itself as MySQL? No clue how your system works or how you figure out which DB it is.

To clarify, my comment was based on anecdotal discussions and interactions with users, issue reports, feature requests, user enthusiasm for new MySQL support/functionality vs relative lack of enthusiasm for new MariaDB support/functionality, etc.

The Skeema CLI is able to accurately identify your database version and flavor (which is necessary for its functionality), there is no notion of MariaDB registering itself as MySQL. But the CLI does not contain telemetry, so I don't have hard stats on MySQL vs MariaDB usage.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by sdan »

systemvoltage wrote: post #52
slapshot wrote: post #3

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The other way around. "Blank check companies" have existed for many many years, but were a relatively rare instrument and did very bespoke deals. Most investors never heard of them. In recent years, a standardized deal emerged that became known as a SPAC (and all the recent flavors of the month). If you look in SEC regulations, you'll see references to "blank check companies" all over the place.

Interesting. Why are SPACs getting a bad rep? Is it because of the acquisitions of shady companies or is there an underlying issue with the process followed by SPACs?

SPAC sponsors get essentially a free money trade when they merge with a company; usually this results in merging with sub-par companies with bad numbers (no revenue or even product usually) so investors can cash out massively without the company really needing to succeed at all

Case in point: most SPACs have fallen anywhere from 50-70% (evtol/lidar/battery companies) over the past year due to the fact that most don't have either a working product or poor numbers

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by zibzab »

Larry Ellison is not happy today.

Edit: let me explain. Larry bought mysql to save oracle from being outcompeted by a young entrepreneur. Who left after 2 years to create an even more competent DB. To add insult to the injury, this market value is below what they paid for mysql 15 years ago, which makes Larry look incompetent.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by evanelias »

eatonphil wrote: post #53
evanelias wrote: post #26

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They're not drop-in replacements for each other, haven't been for years. Each has some unique features that the other lacks.

The Alpine Wiki has an informal blurb about it. The wiki doesn't seem to think there's a huge difference. https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Mysql#MariaDB_vs_MySQL

The Alpine Wiki isn't written by MySQL/MariaDB experts, and is focused on an installation / very basic administrative perspective; from that angle they're not too different. But they've substantially diverged in terms of internals, advanced administrative functionality, and overall focus.

source: I've been working in this space for 19 years, at scales ranging from tiny startups, to largest known mysql installation in the world.

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by eatonphil »

evanelias wrote: post #67
eatonphil wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Alpine Wiki has an informal blurb about it. The wiki doesn't seem to think there's a huge difference. https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Mysql#MariaDB_vs_MySQL

The Alpine Wiki isn't written by MySQL/MariaDB experts, and is focused on an installation / very basic administrative perspective; from that angle they're not too different. But they've substantially diverged in terms of internals, advanced administrative functionality, and overall focus. source: I've been working in this space for 19 years, at scales ranging from tiny startups, to largest known mysql installation in…

Yeah true. Any good comparisons you can point us at?

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by zibzab »

tomtheelder wrote: post #39
rr808 wrote: post #37

Is MariaDB code base a fork of MySQL, seems a good business to sell something twice. I would have expected him to have a non-compete after selling it the first time. Anyone know how he pulled this off?

MariaDB is 12 years old. Any sort of non-compete probably expired.

Yes, but this is Oracle we are talking about. For every developer they have 4 salesmen and 5 lawyers...

Re: MariaDB to go public at $672M valuation

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Post by mdasen »

eatonphil wrote: post #11
capableweb wrote: post #6

> MariaDB, Fast Growing, Popular Open Source Database Software Company No matter how I turn and adjust the parameters, MariaDB seems to be the least popular of the big databases on the market today ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... ) and looking long-term (2004-preset), it seems like it's popularity is going down, not up ( https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MariaDB ).…

It was my impression that many distros alias mariadb as mysql because it's the capital-f Free version so when you install the default distro mysql you are actually installing mariadb. Edit: in fact I think that if you search "default" on this page these are all the distros that do this. https://mariadb.com/kb/en/distributions-which-include-mariad...

I think this was more common years ago. MySQL and MariaDB have diverged more in the years since which means that people want to know which they're installing. For example, RedHat Enterprise Linux used MariaDB as the default in RHEL 7, but RHEL8 splits them back out.

https://mariadb.com/kb/en/incompatibilities-and-feature-diff...

While they're still quite similar and many of the differences might not be something that you hit, there are enough differences that it should be explicit.

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