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Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter
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Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter
#72Eh, you need to use some heuristics on them. Any with "urgent requirement" should be utterly ignored. A personalized LinkedIn message is worth taking.
The problem is that far too many of those companies are using an external recruiter to fill the job as the job is low paid garbage.
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#73I have one rule about life: I do not work with spammers. This includes my career.
Recently, I've been solicited for jobs where it was clear that the recruiter never looked at my resume. (I'm a software engineer, and the roles had nothing to do with software engineering.) I flagged these as SPAM.
Reading resumes is work. Reading job openings is work. When a recruiter spams a job opening without screening the recipients, they're just trying to push their work onto strangers.
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#74I think there is a better middle ground.
> you don’t want to be a jerk to the one in 100 who have taken the time to carefully craft a high quality message to you alone.
I agree with this. If I get the sense the recruiter put effort into the email, then I will usually respond. I'm sure I still fall for automated messages with this. But some recruiters really do their homework, really research you, have interesting and fitting opportunities, and can be valuable.
The 99.99% of recruiters who are just spamming? Totally ignore them.
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#75Not sure how this got upvoted
Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter
#76You can get better data points from levels.fyi and teamblind
Those are great for larger companies but most smaller places won't have much listed there
Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter
#77Add NYC to that list as well. There's no reason to move to either of those cities in 2022.
Oops, just moved to NYC last year! :)
Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter
#78Strong disagree. I've made it my policy to never work with a recruiter that isn't affiliated with the company they're hiring for. Recruiting farms like Cyber Recruiters (yuck) will do everything in their power to waste your time out of sheer incompetence and disinterest. I've "doubled" my salary plenty of times through this policy. But the real secret sauce is referrals. Companies always prioritize a strong referral,…
That's the career advice I would give, build good bridges and make friends with people. Everyone is moving around enough that you'll be able to cross into new companies and skip whole song and dance prior. You also get the benefit of having a heads up on the company you're joining too.
I don't have a professional network per se, just a bunch of friends I clicked with at various companies. I know if they're enjoying somewhere, I probably will too, since we value similar things in the work.
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#79I’ve been doing this for years. It’s good advice.
Re: Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter
#80My current approach: I don't have time ... the volume of messages is too high, and the amount of 'legitimate' inquiries are too low. And the odds of getting ghosted by the recruiter too high. If they're a recruiter from a company that I know and they WORK FOR that company, I'll respond. Having said that I think that is a good article and I really like that email.
Is there a decent way to determine that?
I know there are two extremes: (a) recruiter is a regular employee of hiring company, vs. (z) recruiter works for an unaffiliated placement company.
But i.e. if a recruiter is a temporary contractor with the hiring company, they'd still have an email address from that company, right?