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Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

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Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#81
If you don't like the experience then move back?

There should be no reason why citylife is intrinsically worse, except for the noise and the pollution (car tyres create loads of microparticles).

Agriculture became big business for efficiency reasons, not due to some capitalist plot. Living in the city (if you commute by public transport) is likely more ecological than living in a rural area due to efficiency reasons.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#82

We’re planning to buy 10-20 acres about 30 minutes outside the city, have a few animals, have a large garden (0.5 acres probably), but I intend to keep my job. Our goal is to produce something instead of only consume, reduce our dependence on a supply chain that we think is untenable, and be able to grow most of our own food should we need to. We’re going to focus on growing food that’s easy to grow. I expect this wi…

That seems like a great model for the modern world. What is the food that's easiest to grow?

Potatoes. They require the least maintenance and if you employ a small greenhouse (really, just a meter high, sticks and plastic sheets as cover) they can be grown all year round, yielding as much as 4 or even 5 harvests, depending on the potato type.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#83
Imagine you make a comfortable living at a tech job. Now imagine you find out all your co-workers make three times as much as you. Feels bad, doesn't it? But you felt comfortable before.

I'd recommend a middle path. Homestead, but adopt some modern conveniences where it makes your life comfortable. Reject the things that would just lead to more difficulty, expense, complication. Then disconnect from your friends for a while and see if you don't start to feel good about your life again.

Personally, the more I'm out in nature and just comfortable enough, the more I think everyone else is crazy for living in cities. It's really beautiful and quiet and interesting out here. And I really appreciate every little advantage I have. Just being able to lie in my bed, snug and cozy, with a glass of wine, some mushroom risotto, a movie on the laptop, and the whole world outside just quiet and blanketed in pristine snow ... How could anyone ask for more?

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

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Something I've noticed among the "successful" youtube homesteaders is that they almost all invariably have property "in the city" that they rent out (generally unseen, usually unspoken, and always off camera) for significant passive income and treat homesteading like a virtuous hobby. Many of them also have side hustles like giving paid talks on homesteading, renting out "farm experiences", or offering classes on var…

I've always said, the only people who think farming for a living sounds fun have obviously never farmed. It is more tenable if you have income sources so you aren't depending on farming for your dinner. If you are independent wealthy and can pay others to do all the farming for you, you aren't a farmer, you merely own a farm. It is a tough life. The best part is the half days, just pick any 12 hours you want to work!

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#85

As a rural dweller(15 miles from the nearest town) the whole homestead(read: (semi)off grid, no prior experience, DIY ALL THE THINGS!) movement to me seems completely stupid. It's encouraging people that have no experience or knowledge to leave the world they know, and enter a world they don't. Then, start that world on extra hard mode, and if they don't do it all they're laughed at. They also neglect to tell folks t…

Adding something to this incase folks are thinking "I can do this...I love manual labor." You're not alone alone. In some cases you're actively disliked by towns that you'd move into. Sure the stores and such will take your money, but make no mistake you're the city folks moving out to drive up land prices. You will NOT have the network that people that have lived there forever will have. This network is really what…

i lucked out, the people where i moved accepted me. I have developed quite a network in 2 years.

But then i am a conservative and a lover of God.

I got people on speed dial to help me out if i need it. For anything. Often for free or in exchange for my skills. I have developed a lot of skills.

The social aspect is key out here. Trying to do it all yourself is a fools errand. Also dont expect things to happen overnight.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#86
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's nothing new https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouvard_et_P%C3%A9cuchet (1881) is a novel about two clerks who move out to the countryside and try to learn how to manage a farm (and other knowledge) and completely fail

even today where knowledge of farming and land maintenance is basically free and available to anyone with a phone, farms fail ALL THE TIME. And not just startup farms, multi-generational farms. I live around a bunch of farmers & ranchers, I don't know a single one without a side gig or 8(more towards the 8). My personal ranch is just a money pit. It's my hobby, it makes a little bit of money but it would never be sus…

i agree, dont expect to make a living at it.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#87
My homesteading fantasies were tempered by a real examination of the amount of hard, hard work and time every day that's required. It sounds like you might be happier with a house on a one acre lot within easy driving distance of a city, where you can grow a kitchen garden and maybe keep some chickens. A tech job can afford you that ability. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#88
What did you expect homesteading to be, or to get out of it? People don't do homesteading for the money - it's a lifestyle choice. The very reason many people do it is to escape urban areas, so of course the "comforts" of the city won't be there (that's intentional).

"requires an almost soul crushing amount of hard work"

I consider the work I do, coding for a large organization, to be soul crushing.

It's all about what you want and your perspective. If you want social status, money, and city life, then it sounds like you've already figured out that homesteading is not for you.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#89
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I made the jump 8 years and 3 days ago. (In fact, I wrote books about it https://www.amazon.com/Escape-City-1-Travis-Corcoran/dp/B093... and https://www.amazon.com/Escape-City-2-Travis-Corcoran/dp/B093... ). My first two years were full of buyer's remorse. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I had expected, the work was very hard, I felt incompetent, I missed my friends back in the metropolitan area, and I missed out…

I have your books on my shelf, very helpful. Thank you for writing them.

Re: Ask HN: Did I make a mistake jumping on the homestead bandwagon?

#90
post #72

Something I've noticed among the "successful" youtube homesteaders is that they almost all invariably have property "in the city" that they rent out (generally unseen, usually unspoken, and always off camera) for significant passive income and treat homesteading like a virtuous hobby. Many of them also have side hustles like giving paid talks on homesteading, renting out "farm experiences", or offering classes on var…

The successful youtube homesteaders also usually have a good looking woman walking around in not much clothing all the time :-). I always get the feeling that this is just show and that a lot of them have plenty of resources they don't talk about. I wonder how many of them really make a living of homesteading.
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