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Re: Please make a dumb car

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What I hate about "car discourse" like this is the apparent blindness to public transportation. Trains, bikes, buses, and street cars solve almost every problem that the author complains about. The only outstanding problem, however, is that American infrastructure has been deliberately designed solely around the car. Those who suggest alternative modes of public transportation are immediately written off as "impracti…

> The only outstanding problem, however, is that American infrastructure has been deliberately designed solely around the car. The problem is that "infrastructure" doesn't just mean roads. It's where houses are. Where schools are. Where food is transported. It's where water and electrical service runs. It's how property is zoned. It's how police, fire, and hospitals are located. It's how municipalities design snow re…

> In many ways, fixing the infrastructure problem in the US means razing the whole continent and starting over.

In some places, particularly cities designed around cars (i.e. the last 100 years). Other cities just need things to be upgraded. E.g. I recently moved to Pittsburgh. It's pretty dense in terms of housing and infrastructure--not suburban with big lawns. That's partly because it's hilly. Around here the investment needs to be in fixing bridges and roads, adding some trams (they used to have them!), and maybe tunnels. Also, burying the power lines wouldn't be a bad idea.

On most days I like the idea of razing things to the ground, but probably not around here. We need to actually look to the past in some areas and add the appropriate future, as opposed to nuking and paving.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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I do not like to ride a bike at 0 °C. Buses are fine, waiting for the bus at 0 °C not so. But yeah, owning a car which is only used 1% of it's lifetime is pretty laughable and actually prohibitive.

What's wrong with riding a bike in 0 °C weather? When dressed for the weather riding in the cold weather can be quite enjoyable as long as the roads are clear or your bike has appropriate tires.

> When dressed for the weather riding in the cold weather can be quite enjoyable

Not my sense of comfort.

> as long as the roads are clear or your bike has appropriate tires.

I live in a country where we have snow in winter, at least casually. I think driving safety is severely affected when driving single-track? Wouldn't ride my motorcycle in winter either.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Personally I don't buy this argument to the degree the journalist is spinning it. "No screens anywhere!" is an extreme stance. I enjoy how well CarPlay merges my phone with the display screen (and I enjoy easy music control and turn-by-turn for distance trips).

I do overall agree that the controls of modern cars just don't feel 'balanced'. But I don't think an extreme stance like this is going to improve car UX.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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The easy solution here would be to eschew such features. Remote start seems like it provides no benefit except to waste slightly more gas, and also to occasionally suffocate the elderly or otherwise forgetful.

If you live in a place with cold winters, it's pretty handy to be able to start your car as you leave the office. By the time you've walked to your car, it's nice and warm and the engine is running optimally.[1] 1. I know modern engines claim not to need to be warmed up, but I think that's a load of crap. Oil and other lubricants at very cold temperatures need to warm up and there's no evidence that it hurts anything…

If you think oil and lubricants need to be warmed to a certain point to not harm the engine, why would it be any different if you were idling cold or putting it under light load cold? It wouldn't really. Old cars needed to be warm for the carburetor to provide the correct air and fuel mixture. It didn't have anything to do with lubricants. Once cars became fuel injected it became a waste of gas to warm up the car idling. The engine actually warms up faster being driven.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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post #440

What I hate about "car discourse" like this is the apparent blindness to public transportation. Trains, bikes, buses, and street cars solve almost every problem that the author complains about. The only outstanding problem, however, is that American infrastructure has been deliberately designed solely around the car. Those who suggest alternative modes of public transportation are immediately written off as "impracti…

So we should redesign all streets and revitalize and redesign all public transportation systems before we can even talk about not making all cars operate like iPads (i.e. like they operated 10 years ago)?

If I complain that beef from a small oligopoly of suppliers is contaminated with E. Coli, will you recommend that we talk about turning the entire world vegan first?

edit: I do not own a car and have never had a driver's license. Your values are laudable, but are unrelated to the story.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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More than making a dumb car, make the right to repair/replace/upgrade in case the car maker stops supporting the service; otherwise, this calls for planned obsolescence.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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There is something we could have on cars since at least a decade or more and that I don’t understand we don’t have : HUDs. I already saw one in a top-end car and it’s absolutely practical. I can’t imagine that it costs anything to embed that in a car (it’s just a monochrome, really bright LED screen) so I assume manufacturers just want to keep them as high prices options.

I am guessing patents are the limiting factor. The holders might not want or be able to license the tech more broadly.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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> In the US in May of 2018, a federal law went into effect saying all new cars require a backup camera. This law actually says that if a car can't meet a prescribed rear visibility threshold it needs a backup camera. Instead of make safer designs manufacturers just install cameras. But I don't disagree manufacturers are using screens as an excuse to add superfluous bullshit they'll then use for data mining. See USC 2…

note: 'proscribe' means to prohibit and 'prescribe' means to require

Thanks, fixed it. Don't want a misspelling to affect the effect of my statement.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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post #440

What I hate about "car discourse" like this is the apparent blindness to public transportation. Trains, bikes, buses, and street cars solve almost every problem that the author complains about. The only outstanding problem, however, is that American infrastructure has been deliberately designed solely around the car. Those who suggest alternative modes of public transportation are immediately written off as "impracti…

Most people in America want to live in low-traffic suburbs, where public transport absolutely is impractical. The first step to get most people to stop having cars is to convince people that they're wrong for not wanting to raise a family in the inner city.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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I would absolutely love to ride a bike or say, roller skate to work, but as i live in a stroad infested car dependent mess of a town, that is sadly impractical at best and outright deadly at worst.

I share the same sentiment. Something I've realized recently is that people who complain about car-centrism (myself) often fail to identify ways to start solving these problems. To remedy this, I've been thinking of writing a set of practical posts, sort of a how-to, in which I explore ways to solve these problems. Is that something that would interest you?

I would be interested.

I've also been contemplating how to use my skill set to further decrease our dependence on car centric infrastructure, or help others engage in reducing it.

There seems to be a very large community of people in the US who are opposed to more cars. /r/fuckcars has gained a large following rather quickly. Clearly there is demand, but how do we enable people to start making change? Money and NIMBYs are hard to challenge single handedly.

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