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My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi

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Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi

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Post by PebblesRox »

epicide wrote: post #297
AdrianB1 wrote: post #276

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My first reaction was to write a comment about why you don't need WiFi on a dishwasher. Then I found there may be use cases: you want to start the washing program from the office so it finishes right before you get home. That day when you need to stay another hour in the office, being able to interact with the machine is a nice to have, even if not a really important thing. Same as with air conditioning when you want…

If you already have the dishwasher loaded with the dishes before you leave for work, why not just run it then?

We try to avoid running our dishwasher when our toddler is around because he will interfere with the cycle, but sometimes we forget to start it right before heading out the door. Remote start would be handy in a case like that :)

Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi

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Post by taeric »

frosted-flakes wrote: post #283
ThePadawan wrote: post #120

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The only improvement on that which I've seen is a dishwasher which projects the runtime left onto the floor (instead of just a off/on light).

Why can't it just display that on the screen?

Many don't have screens. Buttons are hidden when door is shut.

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Post by tasha0663 »

LeanderK wrote: post #274
fortran77 wrote: post #96

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I have a Miele speed oven that arrived with a major defect: Microwave worked, but heat modes didn't. They sent a repair crew and there was a missing wire harness in the circuitry. It never could have worked. My experience with "high end" appliances in general (Bosch, Miele, Wolf, Subzero) is that it's a tax on "rich people". They're not better than top-line LG, etc.

> Bosch is bosch really a "high-end" appliances company? I always considered it mid-range company, producing appliances for the middle-class.

Definitely middling quality and design. Our Bosch dishwasher has the worst UI. Nothing exterior at all, only buttons inside the door itself. There's a secret button combo to set the "done" alarm to one of 4 volume settings: too loud, even louder, why is this so f'ing loud, and silent. So you either get a horrible noise that rings intermittently until you open it, or you get to play guessing games.

Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi

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Post by chasd00 »

jmartinpetersen wrote: post #141
alkonaut wrote: post #135

Lots of appliances have actual use cases for WiFi. A Fridge for example makes a loud beep if you forgot to close the door and the temperature is too high. But forget the door and leave your house, and you won't hear the beep. A push notification would solve it. One can argue whether such a feature is actually worth having in a fridge (Added costs, security risks, complexity...) But at least it has a valid use case: n…

A pretty useful feature would be to start when electricity prices are low.

use the delay feature on your existing dumb dishwasher to start in the middle of the night.

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Post by manthedudeguy »

jcelerier wrote: post #254
watwut wrote: post #233

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Time-delay does not require remote control at all.

on the other hand I'd rather pull my nails out than input a start time on a washing machine or oven. The UI are always atrocious for this.

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Post by goodpoint »

denton-scratch wrote: post #248
usrbinbash wrote: post #214

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Oh, I have seen worse things in student dormitories. Ever seen someone use the coffe-maker to cook instant ramen?

I've had AirBnB guests that used the electric kettle to cook ramen. This is an apartment with a stove, oven and all necessary kitchen equipment. Of course this is stupid; you put the dry ramen in a bowl, pour on boiling water, and wait a minute or two. That's what the instructions on the pack actually say. It's not necessary to boil ramen.

A lot of instant noodles taste a lot better if you boil them a bit.

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Post by yojo »

fortran77 wrote: post #96
uxp100 wrote: post #75

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Hah, I have an AC window unit from Miele that is a great piece of hardware. But the app, my god, it's so bad. Every launch of the app requires a log in. Every log in error messages pop up about api endpoint such and such, but it works anyway. If a command fails, which it does half the time, the app gets out of sync with the unit (i.e. app will say fan speed medium, unit will say fan speed low). So I guess it syncs st…

I have a Miele speed oven that arrived with a major defect: Microwave worked, but heat modes didn't. They sent a repair crew and there was a missing wire harness in the circuitry. It never could have worked. My experience with "high end" appliances in general (Bosch, Miele, Wolf, Subzero) is that it's a tax on "rich people". They're not better than top-line LG, etc.

In my opinion “top of the line” any appliance is usually worse than the entry model. Typically it just adds more “features” that introduce additional moving parts, circuit boards, and displays. Rarely if ever do I need these things, and there’s a real hit to reliability.

I’ve been kitting out a new house and the appliance I’ve been most satisfied by far is my Victory Twister range hood. It’s a stainless steel box with a blower, some lights, a couple wires and two rotary switches. I wish I could buy all my appliances without PCBs.

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Post by Scea91 »

sshagent wrote: post #208
nsxwolf wrote: post #192

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Every dishwasher I've ever used, your best bet is to put everything on full blast, least efficient settings. Otherwise the dishes get "almost" clean. I always imagine the engineers standing around patting themselves on the back after testing, and marveling how their ideas worked so well most of the dishes got clean. The dishes all need to be totally clean, every time, or it's useless to me.

Isn't this the truth. Over Christmas family was around and someone loaded the dishwater and put it on economical or whatever the 'easy wash' mode was called, i chuckled knowing they might as well waved the dirty dishes in the sky for an equilavent wash. Its like, why are the other options even there...Intensive wash, every time.

Does not match my experience. I have a fairly regular Bosch dishwasher and use the ECO mode almost exclusively without any issues.

Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi

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Post by [deleted] »

cooperadymas wrote: post #212
hexo wrote: post #183

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Is that some kind of mythical product? Would you mind telling us its name? Please :)

Do you mean the dishwasher? Or the 2 year old that loves to help with chores? If the latter, I honestly don't know how we got so blessed with a product that's this amazing in so many diverse ways.

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