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As long as I clean my dishes before I put them in the washer, I never have any issues.
Was that intended to be ironic?
Some people put the dirtiest dishes in the history of humanity in their washer and then complain it doesn’t clean very well. A quick rinse with water to get the chunks, or the really caked on stuff off works wonders.
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Updates improve wash efficiency, etc. Not just security updates. Maybe a new cleaning powder comes with a new algo. Maybe there's a better dosing for certain levels of water hardness. But the gist is that it updates the whole module. I'm fine with this, Miele are like Bosch in that they look after the hardware they sell for decades rather than considering it deprecated the day it leaves a shop floor.
I've used Miele appliances for 3 decades now. Somehow, until recently, they managed to provide excellent quality and durability without spying on their users and releasing half baked firmwares in need of updates.
I can understand the appeal of most smart devices, but since a dishwasher can’t yet load and unload itself, what is the point of an internet connected dishwasher? You have to have physically loaded it. Why not just push the start button then?
The only thing I could think of that would be useful would be delayed starting. Often we load the dishwasher but don't want to start it right away for one reason or another... usually though a simple button to start in 1..2..3.. hours would be fine, though. And I don't think that feature is worth the tradeoffs. Especially if it requires an Internet connection to use, instead of just talking directing to my personal h…
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Was that intended to be ironic?
Nope, that's how you're "supposed" to use them. Seriously, you too can save a bunch of electricity and wasted time by pre-washing stuff before putting it in the dishwasher. I do agree that it sounds like satire, though.
> There is no need to rinse items under running water!
Dishwashers already pre-wash with an initial rinse cycle, the whole point is that they do the washing for you. It's also a whole lot more efficient in terms of water waste.
The problem is when you don't give that first cycle any powder to work with, ie. if you're using pods.
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My first reaction was to write a comment about why you don't need WiFi on a dishwasher. Then I found there may be use cases: you want to start the washing program from the office so it finishes right before you get home. That day when you need to stay another hour in the office, being able to interact with the machine is a nice to have, even if not a really important thing. Same as with air conditioning when you want…
If you already have the dishwasher loaded with the dishes before you leave for work, why not just run it then?
What reason could a dishwasher have for a firmware update? Did they not test their dishwasher? did they lock away features behind a subscription? Why would it need a security update if it wasn't internet connected?
An update to cope better with people using detergent pods of using the detergent dispenser? This excellent video [1] explains why pods do not work well and also explains a lot about how dishwashers work that I definitely did not know. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04
I love vids like this - as its a good thing to have an understanding of how all things around you work.
Also, There are two ltypes of dishwasher owners: Those who pre-rinse things that fgo in and those who dont.
I ALWAYS pre-rinse everything. there are times when I use the dishwasher as a dish-rack and wash things by hand and just put them into the open dish-washer to dry... I prefer this to having anything on the counters.
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I have a set of LG washer/dryer which are wifi capable...
I have yet to find a reason to connect them, even though I have a wifi extender node plugged into the same power as the washer.
I do have "smart" lightbulbs in every socket in the house and can control them all with alexa and/or the Feit app...
I use it all the time, and like to be able to set every single light in the house to whatever color I want. So Ill often set the lights to "Firebrick" which is the most calming at night.
https://www.smarthomeexplained.com/alexa-smart-light-color-n...
and I like to say "Alexa set all lights to firebrick" and every single bulb in the house and porch turn red....
But I guess Ill have to connect the washer and drier to wifi and see what added value I might find there...
FYI this is also a great vid by that guy on power plugs.
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I have a Miele speed oven that arrived with a major defect: Microwave worked, but heat modes didn't. They sent a repair crew and there was a missing wire harness in the circuitry. It never could have worked. My experience with "high end" appliances in general (Bosch, Miele, Wolf, Subzero) is that it's a tax on "rich people". They're not better than top-line LG, etc.
> Bosch is bosch really a "high-end" appliances company? I always considered it mid-range company, producing appliances for the middle-class.
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Time-delay does not require remote control at all.
on the other hand I'd rather pull my nails out than input a start time on a washing machine or oven. The UI are always atrocious for this.
My dishwasher needs no software. The dishwasher I buy will never need software. I am a software engineer and I love technology, but I love simple technology and when something doesn't need software, I don't add software just for the sake of having software.
I just wash my dishes by hand. It's like 5 minutes between meetings during morning. Same with zipping around the house with a vacuum cleaner.