My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
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Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#2This sounds like something that https://twitter.com/internetofshit would repost
Maybe the firmware is important for the dishwasher though, but it should still function without it. I imagine a dystopian future where some society fails for some reason and internet stop being reliable. So much of our technology is dependent on it to work.
It could be war, it could be solar winds or even more likely that the manufacturer goes out of business and closes down their servers.
This is just pretty bad and I think most of us can agree. Nothing will ever change though since you pretty much don't know about this until it happens to you.
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#3Your dishwasher protecting you against evil hackers with critical updates.
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#4This sounds like something that https://twitter.com/internetofshit would repost Maybe the firmware is important for the dishwasher though, but it should still function without it. I imagine a dystopian future where some society fails for some reason and internet stop being reliable. So much of our technology is dependent on it to work. It could be war, it could be solar winds or even more likely that the manufacturer…
> This sounds like something that https://twitter.com/internetofshit would repost
They actually reposted it 8 hours ago
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#5Looks like a Miele. That menu can be exited (the image where it says "Software Update", the tiny bit on the right... that's a scroll bar of multiple options including the ability to exit this menu), but it does imply that the dishwasher is already connected to Wi-Fi and that it has determined that there is an update available.
There are few times that a dishwasher is interacted with, if not when you go into the menu to start it then when? It's just asking "Do you want to do this now?" if not that is fine (the menu can be exited), but now you know to do it later.
Alternatively as the dishwasher clearly is on Wi-Fi already (the only way it would know there's an update), one can use the Miele@Home app to perform the update at a more convenient time.
I have a Miele dishwasher, it is connected to Wi-Fi (on a VLAN with other white goods, outbound connections to certain domains only). The Wi-Fi is useful... the dishwasher auto-doses the powder, rinse aid, salt, etc... and can let me know the levels of those. In addition it tells me when the cycle is done. Performs updates, etc. There's a Home Assistant integration too, but I've not done that (my VLAN setup prevented it!).
PS: If you're of the opinion that a dishwasher doesn't need to be on Wi-Fi and you wouldn't connect it... then great, that's another way not to be asked to do an update. This dishwasher isn't going to ask to connect to Wi-Fi, it's something you choose to do (something that takes a degree of determination I might add).
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#6This sounds like something that https://twitter.com/internetofshit would repost Maybe the firmware is important for the dishwasher though, but it should still function without it. I imagine a dystopian future where some society fails for some reason and internet stop being reliable. So much of our technology is dependent on it to work. It could be war, it could be solar winds or even more likely that the manufacturer…
Personally I try to avoid these connected appliances like the plague. That said, if today's dishwasher market is anything like that of TVs, it wouldn't be easy to find one that's up to spec that doesn't come with all this nonsense.
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#7I can understand the appeal of most smart devices, but since a dishwasher can’t yet load and unload itself, what is the point of an internet connected dishwasher? You have to have physically loaded it. Why not just push the start button then?
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#8What reason could a dishwasher have for a firmware update? Did they not test their dishwasher? did they lock away features behind a subscription? Why would it need a security update if it wasn't internet connected?
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#9Your dishwasher protecting you against evil hackers with critical updates.
Sounds like a self-created problem.
Re: My dishwasher won’t start until I let it update its firmware over the WiFi
#10Today my TV had an update and now I can't enable the wifi.