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Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by MagnumOpus »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #37
ComradePhil wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their high end premium TVs have had it since 2019 https://www.techradar.com/news/samsung-one-connect-box The One Connect Box has all the ports including power, HDMI, ethernet, USB etc. and the TV has just one proprietary port where you connect the One Connect Box.

> the TV has just one proprietary port where you connect the One Connect Box. That is not a step forward.

It is - at least you can then exchange the box with the ARM CPU when the new versions of Netfix and Youtube apps start requiring 16GB of memory and a teraflop CPU, without having to chuck a screen that works perfectly fine.

Of course you can also just by an external Nvidia Shield unit and connect it by HDMI, like you can now.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by schwartzworld »

aembleton wrote: post #147

My 2008 Prius doesn't have Bluetooth and I have to use a dongle. Its one of the biggest issues I have with the car. The dongle needs power, which is fine - I've got it plugged into a USB socket but everytime I start up the car I have to switch it on; otherwise I've got no audio. When I stop the car, the dongle has a small battery so my podcast continues playing if I don't pause it - I then miss part of it. I rented a…

My 2014 Xterra has Bluetooth, but it's an old Bluetooth that works for calls and not music. I also had to get a dongle, since my phone lacks a headphone jack (another spectacular engineering decision).

You should get a better BT dongle though. Mine switches on when the power turns on.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by aembleton »

400thecat wrote: post #148
squarefoot wrote: post #124

I'd be generally fine with "smart" cars, provided they can be kept disconnected 24/7, that is, no phoning home to report where I am going or at what speed, and no ads. Otherwise, then thanks but no thanks.

do the dashboards in smart cars display ads?

Not yet; but it wouldn't surprise me to see that in the next few years.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by raxxorrax »

tsujp wrote: post #41

One thing I was flabbergasted at recently was Tesla offering, and the government allowing, regular drivers to use a yoke steering wheel like F1 drivers. Not only is it harder for the average person to handle but their firmware hadn't accounted for the fact that if you steer fully left or right the yoke is upside down and if you try and indicate it ends up indicating on the wrong side. What is wrong with a wheel and f…

You rarely need to reverse F1 cars and if you do you probably have bigger problems. A round wheel does make so much more sense and is far more comfortable to handle.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by alexvoda »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #118
tsujp wrote: post #41

One thing I was flabbergasted at recently was Tesla offering, and the government allowing, regular drivers to use a yoke steering wheel like F1 drivers. Not only is it harder for the average person to handle but their firmware hadn't accounted for the fact that if you steer fully left or right the yoke is upside down and if you try and indicate it ends up indicating on the wrong side. What is wrong with a wheel and f…

Just like everything done by Tesla: they have absolutely no experience in making cars, and it shows really badly. Terrible construction quality that I don't even experience on a 10k € Dacia, touch screens everywhere (it's already bad enough when it's just the radio or Android Auto, but a bunch of critical features are on the touch screen), the yoke having no physical feedback and clearly no thought other than "wow fu…

Tesla should really stick to making electric drivetrains and branding and let someone else design and build the rest if the car.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by raxxorrax »

squarefoot wrote: post #124

I'd be generally fine with "smart" cars, provided they can be kept disconnected 24/7, that is, no phoning home to report where I am going or at what speed, and no ads. Otherwise, then thanks but no thanks.

Sadly the trend is that new shitty cars will come with preinstalled eSims to phone home "diagnostic" data.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by unityByFreedom »

Eji1700 wrote: post #95
function_seven wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second video horrified me. What the hell are they thinking with the touch-sensitive inputs on the steering wheel? Nevermind the weird shape and the issues with orientation when signaling during a steering maneuver. Those aren't actual buttons, they're no better than a touch screen. When I drive, my hands aren't always in the exact same position on the wheel. Muscle-memory won't reliably have my thumb landing on…

Glad i'm not the only one who thinks this is insane. I could maybe see a yolk, but dear god get me AWAY from touch screen style buttons in any serious process, let alone ones that can wind up in different orientations. And why in the hell does a yolk need to have the horn on a button rather than the center of the yolk as anyone would expect? Maybe there's some technical reason i'm unaware of, but this seems actively…

> And why in the hell does a yolk need to have the horn on a button rather than the center of the yolk as anyone would expect? Maybe there's some technical reason i'm unaware of

No you're right, it's change for the sake of change. It is now a status symbol to show off how well you drive a vehicle whose management is more challenging than other cars.

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