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Please make a dumb car

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Re: Please make a dumb car

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> Not to mention the privacy and security concerns.

Heh. That ship has sailed.

Wait until electronic license plates using eInk roll out and update automatically. First they'll just change if you haven't paid your registration, then later if your insurance lapses, or maybe it'll light up with yellow LEDs when there's a kidnapping. It'll be integrated into Fast Pass toll-payment systems, why not? And over the next decade, as the taxes from gasoline disappear, the plates will have integrated travel tracking so you automatically pay $0.02 per mile road usage taxes. It'll be the most fair way to pay for the roads.

Yep, this is all coming. First, they'll be add-on plates, but then they'll be integrated into all new cars. Personal transportation is going to look completely different by the end of the century, anyways. Worrying about the number of knobs on your dashboard is like worrying about the color of your horse's blinders or whether your cart's wheels were made out of oak or cedar.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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This is a great point. It's only logical. After all, a customer who doesn't want to use the infotainment system can ignore it, but the customers who want one will reject your automobile offering out of hand if you don't include one.

Mechanical things break and require lot of design, testing and validation. A screen solves that problem more efficiently and eliminates 100’s of other parts and wires that go to other buttons.

The screen in my Ford CMAX goes out on a regular basis. It appears to be trying to update its software, and hanging in the process. Eventually it comes back, but it could be weeks later. In the meantime, I have no backup camera, navigation, or radio.

Fortunately the HVAC is controlled via physical buttons.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Same with TVs, please. I can't find a single OLED on the market that doesn't have Android or some shitty Samsung OS installed on it.

I went with WebOS, so far the best of them, meaning the less painfull one.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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I generally didn’t agree with the article. I have found that my Toyota Corolla Hybrid has about the right mix of smart and dumb (in terms of dials and knobs), and again in disagreement to the article .. I love my digital speedo! It’s high up on the dash and closer to the road, compared to my old space-wasting meters that were more difficult to read. And the concern about the GPS in our cars invading our privacy.. thi…

Most people have no idea that their car with telematics features (ie Onstar or similar) is almost constantly reporting their location and a slew of parameters back to the manufacturer.

This is true regardless of whether you have a telematics subscription. The subscription just enables the stuff you can actually use.

Manufacturers are monetizing that information, selling it to anyone who wants to buy it. I know someone that worked for a company using said data to try and enhance weather reporting (the data reported back includes outside air temperature, headlights, windshield wiper status, etc.) They were receiving data from multiple manufacturers.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Do you by chance know the models?

Their high end premium TVs have had it since 2019 https://www.techradar.com/news/samsung-one-connect-box The One Connect Box has all the ports including power, HDMI, ethernet, USB etc. and the TV has just one proprietary port where you connect the One Connect Box.

> the TV has just one proprietary port where you connect the One Connect Box.

That is not a step forward.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Same with TVs, please. I can't find a single OLED on the market that doesn't have Android or some shitty Samsung OS installed on it.

What’s your gripe with android tvs? I hate Samsung for their ads but I own an android and have found it to be nothing less or more than what I need.

They're constantly collecting data on anything you do on the TV, and that data is being sold to whoever wants it?
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