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Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#451
People are telling you that you are too judgmental. People are telling you that you need to accept your situation. People are telling you to move to a huge city.

Instead, you need to be MORE judgmental. You need to reject your situation EVEN HARDER. Definitely DO NOT move to a huge city (unless you have people there).

Your problem is that, up until now, you have been following money and interests, and expecting that the belonging issue to sort itself out.

This is a foundational mistake, it's completely backwards. You need to belong FIRST. Your interests should stem from the needs of the people that you love, your tribe. Your work/employment should stem from the needs of those people, and your role in what they are working towards. The other way around does not work.

Basically, you are alone because you were misled into prioritizing the wrong things. Turning that around will involve a lot of pain and sacrifice.

Find the people that you actually love, love being around, and love being connected to. Find them online. Find them through extended family. Find them through old friends. Go travel, and reconnect with your own people.

These people exist! There is no reason to settle for less. Stop what you are doing now, and orient your whole life around this. Once you find it, go find more people like yourself and pull them into the group. So many people like you are trapped in this same situation, and they need your help.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#452
I got into miniature painting. First just figures to play games with, but then moved to busts and larger (75mm) display pieces. I pretty much have dedicated myself to these at one point. I still go out to local gaming stores to enjoy games with people, made friends that way to hang with, but what brought real peace to my mind is practicing art on a daily basis.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#453
Hey bub, I think part of the challenge here is you have some hangups and prejudices about “normal” that are not serving you. Your narrative dismisses categories of human beings, as beneath you or not worth considering as people to connect with in a meaningful way. You also dismiss therapy but getting an outside point of view could help you examine some of these assumptions about who you are and who others are. It sounds like those are barriers to the connection you seek.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#454
More points I didn't see mentioned here, that are likely low hanging fruits:

- Try coworking instead of home, or change job. Work is definitely the easiest way to socialize (besides being a parent).

- You could also retry the flatshare thing as well. Plenty of creative people do it in their 30s. It's fun. People are cleaner. Why not?

- Or, you may try and volunteer in a non-profit / charity / political party / art group. This is kind of like work, but with people who are not in it for money so more socializing. There is always some computer stuff to do in these.

- Also, you can try teach coding somewhere. You can make teacher friends...

More generally "how can I help?" is an easier icebreaker than "will you talk to me?", and literally everyone needs to know someone who can code.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an atheist or at best agnostic, but I've met and known many highly intelligent people who are also religious. It's not mutually exclusive.

So we have an idea that is false. Demonstrably false we can agree. Also, anecdotes aside for a moment overwhelmingly higher religious beliefs correlate with lower intelligence. So, back to the anecdote, why in the case of someone being intelligent by your judgement would they believe this story, with ample evidence easily accessible to refute it? - They've never considered it critically--ok that's possible - They've…

There are tons of things like this outside of religion. Almost every coherent group of people believes in some sort of nonsense for political reasons, and as a form of identity signaling.

- Many people in this community believe that a female soul can be mis-allocated to a male body, for example.

- Many people in this community believe that Trump was involved in a conspiracy with Putin to take over the USA.

- Many people in this community believe that democracy is a form of government that gives the population more power than other forms of government.

All of these beliefs are rather silly, but are accepted as dogma and critique is unwelcome.

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I do agree, however, that the Christian church is predatory. It is matriarchal and is basically a system of domestication. However, the fact that they employ dogma is not the problem, all groups employ dogma.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about depression. However, OP seems unhappy with their current life and is unsure how to fix it. Therapy often can help with that - its not just for depressed people.

Sometimes people are a bit depressed because their life situation is a bit depressing. It can be better to fix the situation.

That is what therapists do (among other things)

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#457
What were you doing in your 20s? You should have been getting girls, engaged, married if you want that kind of life. It doesn’t usually happen over night.

Remember how people will see you. A 30-something guy, programmer. How fit are you? Socially competent? Are you reasonably successful? Do you have skills and hobbies outside of work? Skiing, martial arts, scuba, sailing, climbing, lifting, whatever.

A girl will look at you and likely have some expectation of where you should be at your age. Hint- it should look like you haven’t been wasting your life. Savings, career, house, decent car, well spoken, fit, etc. Remember, the more attractive/ younger, the more options she has. How do you stack up against the competition?

Do you have any female friends? If not, get some. It’ll be a real eye opener seeing the world through her eyes. A world where she gets hit on constantly and lied to to get into her pants almost as much. It will at least teach you what not to say and do.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we have an idea that is false. Demonstrably false we can agree. Also, anecdotes aside for a moment overwhelmingly higher religious beliefs correlate with lower intelligence. So, back to the anecdote, why in the case of someone being intelligent by your judgement would they believe this story, with ample evidence easily accessible to refute it? - They've never considered it critically--ok that's possible - They've…

There are tons of things like this outside of religion. Almost every coherent group of people believes in some sort of nonsense for political reasons, and as a form of identity signaling. - Many people in this community believe that a female soul can be mis-allocated to a male body, for example. - Many people in this community believe that Trump was involved in a conspiracy with Putin to take over the USA. - Many peo…

Seems like this is political flamebait, but I don't think I've ever seen the first point phrased in such a way that it refers to a soul. This makes me wonder, what part of that do you believe is nonsense? The existence of the soul?

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#459
post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tons of things like this outside of religion. Almost every coherent group of people believes in some sort of nonsense for political reasons, and as a form of identity signaling. - Many people in this community believe that a female soul can be mis-allocated to a male body, for example. - Many people in this community believe that Trump was involved in a conspiracy with Putin to take over the USA. - Many peo…

Seems like this is political flamebait, but I don't think I've ever seen the first point phrased in such a way that it refers to a soul. This makes me wonder, what part of that do you believe is nonsense? The existence of the soul?

I have no interest in arguing against any of these points here.

All I am claiming is that they are a form of dogma. These beliefs look very silly to everyone outside of this culture.

They seem silly to everyone. To every other culture in the world, and to every culture of the past.

And yet, critiquing them within this culture is dangerous.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#460

This is extremely common. In their 30s, people get married, have kids, and move to the suburbs. Finding and keeping friends in your 30s is quite a challenge. Some tips: - move to a city - things are much much easier in a city as people are more transient, groups aren't as established, and new people arrive all the time - it sounds like you have some friends - ask them if they have any friends in your area you should…

"you're depressed"

Don't listen to this guy. Don't let people keyboard diagnose you. You can go falk to a therapist if you want an actual diagnosis (although you state that you don't, which seems fine to me).

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