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John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by Freak_NL »

jameshart wrote: post #126
mongol wrote: post #104

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I can kind of understand it if you develop a database schema. But I don't see the point for regular text. No constraints exist, you can write whatever numbers you want.

Long now philosophy is that writing years that way encourages you to think about history on a different scale. To consider the date now as being near the beginning of a long future of history, rather than as at the end of a long line of history. Or, when looking at a historical date like 01694 to realize it’s not so very far from 02022.

This particular affectation seems really far from overcoming its current limitation of being a readability roadblock.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

Freak_NL wrote: post #131
jameshart wrote: post #126

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Long now philosophy is that writing years that way encourages you to think about history on a different scale. To consider the date now as being near the beginning of a long future of history, rather than as at the end of a long line of history. Or, when looking at a historical date like 01694 to realize it’s not so very far from 02022.

This particular affectation seems really far from overcoming its current limitation of being a readability roadblock.

I didn't find it particularly bad for readability. Then again, I'm used to ISO dates (2022-01-30).

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by Freak_NL »

ksherlock wrote: post #125
hahamrfunnyguy wrote: post #99

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It's not really a pancake if it's baked now is it? Every "pancake" I can think of is always pan-fried. What is it called in Dutch?

If it's a "Dutch baby" pancake, they're baked in frying pan. But they only thing Dutch about them is the name. They are, in fact, an American invention.

Funny; most Dutchmen won't know what is meant by a 'Dutch pancake' baked in an oven. There is indeed nothing Dutch about it. Pancakes here are similar to the British ones; thicker than crêpes, not fluffy like American pancakes. Pancakes are still a popular treat for children, and a good authentic pancake restaurant is certainly not the worst place you can end up in.

(The crêpes you can buy with Nutella on it every 50m in tourist traps¹ are only for money laundering and foreign tourists still struggling to get a grip on Euro conversion rates.)

1: A good deal of Amsterdam's historic city centre.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by mahogany »

knorker wrote: post #127

For any americans here: With the right recipe, are your pancakes edible without simply using them as sponges for high fructose corn syrup? I'm thinking of the ones with baking powder, that I consider "american pancakes" (but correct me if that's not right).

Sure, just throw some blueberries into the batter. (PS: I only use real maple syrup, but I'm probably pretentious.)

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by Freak_NL »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #132
Freak_NL wrote: post #131

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This particular affectation seems really far from overcoming its current limitation of being a readability roadblock.

I didn't find it particularly bad for readability. Then again, I'm used to ISO dates (2022-01-30).

It's the leading zero that throws me off and makes me look for a day-of-month or month number in a string that is too short to have one and a leading zero. ISO 8601 dates are fine.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by buescher »

bcherny wrote: post #50
Firmwarrior wrote: post #3

Why would he beat the batter for 15 minutes? Did flour back then not have as much gluten? This is all the info I could manage to find about this on my own: (mangled the link since the site is jam-packed with ads and trackers) www.realsimple (dot) com (slash) food-recipes/cooking-tips-techniques/pancake-secret-ingredient-gluten

The recipe has 1.5 cups heavy cream, which will become fluffy when you beat it that long, making the pancakes lighter and fluffier.

Except you add the cream after beating the eggs and flour in the original recipe.

Today's waffle and some pancake batter recipes will call for beating the eggs until light and fluffy, which takes a few minutes in a mixer and could take 15 minutes by hand. Then you typically fold or mix the flour and dairy (milk, cream, or buttermilk) into the eggs, alternating small amounts of each. Then add the clarified butter. That's how I would adapt the recipe to the use of a mixer.

Also, I would make sure to use salted butter in this recipe or add a small amount of salt.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by lostlogin »

mathewsanders wrote: post #123
klipt wrote: post #14

Fun fact: nutmeg is toxic to humans in surprisingly small amounts. I wouldn't eat half a nutmeg by myself in one sitting!

Cue this chart showing how close the ratio of fetal dose to effective dose of nutmeg is (spoiler it’s bad). https://trevoroldak.com/uploads/drugdoses.jpg

I assume you mean ‘fatal’ dose. If not, please explain!

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by lostlogin »

kemayo wrote: post #29
GlennS wrote: post #27

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This is a dialects of English thing. In Britain: pancakes don't use baking powder. They're flat like a slighly thicker crepe. I would describe a thick fluffy pancake made with baking powder as a "Scotch pancake", but in Australia, the USA, Canada and New Zealand, that style is just a "pancake".

I'm sympathetic to the confusion, despite having a British origin myself, just because the thick-fluffy pancake is objectively more similar to other things we call "cake".

This sort of thing has gone to court - the biscuit versus cake saga of Jaffa Cakes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Post by lostlogin »

sandermvanvliet wrote: post #69
frazbin wrote: post #8

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Yep that's the one-- gotta get gas into the batter somehow

Throw in some beer, works a charm for the taste too

Yeasted batter makes amazing waffles and pancakes. You need to make it the day before you use it but it’s completely worth it.
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