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War Is a Racket (1933)

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Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#81
post #42

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The Russian propaganda in this thread is strong…

So you call the verifiable facts in my comment "Russian propaganda"... "The worse for the facts", am I right?

Yes, it's Russian propaganda.

See facts at https://euvsdisinfo.eu/

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#82
post #69

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He also launched more drone strikes than Obama, relaxed the rules of engagement and civilian oversight over the chain of command, and killed hundreds of civilians in airstrikes on Afghanistan and the first use of a MOAB in combat.

> He also launched more drone strikes than Obama And Obama more than Bush. Either way, the direction is monotonically increasing. Could it be the problem isn't who holds the presidency?

The technology was still in development under Bush, he can't really be compared to subsequent presidents who had full access to it.

I do think there's a chance that just having the capability is inherently corrupting. I guess we'll see how Biden does, though.

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#84
post #47

I read this book (or a good chunk of it) awhile ago and something was off about it. I didn't believe he knew what he was talking about. I dont recall any counter examples in his book, or him claiming he had direct experience with businesses matters. Perhaps he conflated correlation and causation. Some businesses are going to profit from war because demand for certain items will spike. But to claim WW I was pushed by…

Why does that specific war need to be the only piece of evidence? In the US we literally spend trillions on war in spite of not really openly fighting them.

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#85
post #17

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Where is major media in the US commonly arguing in favor of a US war with Russia? They're certainly talking about Russia re Ukraine frequently. I've seen a lot of the headlines spilling out of NY Times, WaPo, Fox, MSNBC, et al. and they're not arguing in favor of the US going to war with Russia. That's a very rare argument. Almost exclusively the arguments are about how to respond after Russia invades Ukraine, in ter…

It's hard to sort it out. I've read stories in American media that describe a Russian troop build-up and make an invasion seem inevitable ("they wouldn't expend these resources to mobilize this many soldiers without plans to invade"). I've also read stories that claim the Russians only have ~10,000 troops at the border, not nearly enough for an invasion, and that the amount hasn't actually changed. The Ukranians seem…

> The Ukranians seem to be downplaying the risk of invasion. Whether or not the US media wants a war, it may be the case that they've overestimated the likelihood of an invasion.

The goal of V. Poopking is to make billions for him and his friends in RF and Germany. For that, he needs Nord Stream 2 to work, so he needs to exchange something for Nord Stream 2. RF has weak economy, so it has nothing to propose in exchange, except safety from RF army.

If RF does not invade Ukraine, Germany will allow Nord Stream 2 to work, which is beneficial for both Poopking and his German partners. Goal achieved.

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#86
post #29

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Where is major media in the US commonly arguing in favor of a US war with Russia? They're certainly talking about Russia re Ukraine frequently. I've seen a lot of the headlines spilling out of NY Times, WaPo, Fox, MSNBC, et al. and they're not arguing in favor of the US going to war with Russia. That's a very rare argument. Almost exclusively the arguments are about how to respond after Russia invades Ukraine, in ter…

You've completely glossed over the root of it here. The lie that Russia is going to invade Ukraine is the "Saddam has WMDs" Every time the US media talks about an imminent "Russian Invasion", or suggests that they are not the ones instigating the war, they are indirectly instigating war with Russia by lying.

Lie?

So are you saying these satellite images are fabricated?

https://www.wsj.com/video/series/on-the-news/satellite-image...

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#87
post #29

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You've completely glossed over the root of it here. The lie that Russia is going to invade Ukraine is the "Saddam has WMDs" Every time the US media talks about an imminent "Russian Invasion", or suggests that they are not the ones instigating the war, they are indirectly instigating war with Russia by lying.

Lie? So are you saying these satellite images are fabricated? https://www.wsj.com/video/series/on-the-news/satellite-image...

Yes, the framing of the high budget web military propaganda from the effectively state-run military news source is based on lies.

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#88
post #63

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Russia currently has troops on Ukrainian soil. They invaded 8 years ago, and the invasion has not ended.

The current lie is that there is a threat of a new invasion. Not even Ukrainian leadership agrees with this, but it doesn't seem to affect planning in the United States. "They invaded 8 years ago" hm ok. Do you know what a US color revolution is? https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2014/03/11/pierre-omidyar-c...

Most of the countries have two or two choices, align with Russia/China, or align with the West.

Back in 2017, 69% of Ukrainian wants to join NATO[1].

It is Putin's own fascination that Ukraine should go back to Russia that starts all this mess[2].

Even if US has sponsored the color revolution, so what? Between two evils, choose the lesser one.

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-nato-idUSKBN19V12... [2]: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#89

We can clearly hear the drums beating from across the Atlantic. A new adventure was already expected with the change of administration.

Something I don't get: Why is the Ukrainian president less concerned about invasion than the US president? Anyone have a good answer to this?

Re: War Is a Racket (1933)

#90
post #47

I read this book (or a good chunk of it) awhile ago and something was off about it. I didn't believe he knew what he was talking about. I dont recall any counter examples in his book, or him claiming he had direct experience with businesses matters. Perhaps he conflated correlation and causation. Some businesses are going to profit from war because demand for certain items will spike. But to claim WW I was pushed by…

WW1 was thought to have been impossible to happen ahead of time because of the losses in business and trade would have been too great. Claiming that it was pushed by business interests is an extraordinary claim which to my knowledge has never been substantiated with any extraordinary evidence.

>WW1 was thought to have been impossible to happen ahead of time because of the losses in business and trade would have been too great.

For conventional business and trade, that is true. We're talking about war profiteers, a different type of businessman who profits from the churn.

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