This is extremely common. In their 30s, people get married, have kids, and move to the suburbs. Finding and keeping friends in your 30s is quite a challenge. Some tips: - move to a city - things are much much easier in a city as people are more transient, groups aren't as established, and new people arrive all the time - it sounds like you have some friends - ask them if they have any friends in your area you should…
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#52Burn out. Or maybe some kind of clinical depression. 1) covid's almost over, and that'll help 2) Burning Man? I'm semi-serious here. 3) After 10 years away from writing code, I took a full stack contract to do something esoteric and difficult, without a tight deadline. It took me nearly three months to recover 100% of my coding capability, and after the contract ended, nearly three months to recover my social skills.…
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> So...people like you? you sound really judgemental man. I know it sounds bad, but I don't want to meet people like me. I really don't like myself right now :) I'm looking for a way out from this state, not a way to settle in. It's like you can't treat depression by hanging out with other depressed people, it'll make you worse. > Since you have no friends(so nothing to hold you where you are, right?), and apparently…
I'm not sure how well this will be received on HN, but if you're looking for a meeting place with folks that generally skew toward more community integration / more vibrant social lives, and which doesn't require already knowing someone, I'd suggest picking up a sport. Granted, you'll have to contend with the stereotypical "bro" types, but there'll also be well-adjusted young professionals in a similar position as yo…
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#57This has no basis in reality, it's a distortion. You can make friends. Do what people do when they settle in a new city: meetup groups, pick up sports, book clubs etc. Covid is a current impediment, but it won't be later.
This sounds like loneliness. Having a partner helps.
> On the other hand, I feel that finding a non-coding job would be ultimately the best way to find new social groups, and get out of the apathy
Having had corporate & government gigs in offices, and working remote, I would re-think that assumption. What the office environment grants at the very least is water-cooler talk, which provides at least some level of socializing. Not necessarily more than that. A good social group need not depend on workmates. At any rate, you can meet new people outside of work, and offices never made me feel any less lonely in and of themselves in my worst years.
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#58I have lots of things I'd like to say and yet the one that jumps out to me the most:
If you don't think you have any skills other than coding, what's one skill other than coding that you'd like to learn?
I ask because I've found that sometimes it has been the easiest for me to meet people in learning environments, maybe for similar dynamics to college. A place where I feel uncertain yet curious to learn more, and often encounter others who are feeling similarly or have learned and are somewhat eager to teach people who want to learn.
This may be similar to "get a hobby" advice, yet I think it differs enough in that it's more about finding a specific skill you are interested in learning. The challenge with some hobbies is that many people who are there may already be very skilled in it and may not want to deal with people who are beginners. That's what I like about learning environments, many often appreciate and welcome learners.
And, I'd guess that an environment with an assumption of curiosity could lead to interpersonal curiosity as well.
I used to teach salsa lessons and I found that a lot of people came to salsa because they wanted to meet others—not necessarily because they wanted to learn salsa—and it would show. As a teacher, I'm not so interested in teaching someone who wants doesn't really want to learn, just wants to use the class to meet others. Conversely, if someone really wants to learn, I'm excited to teach them, and they seem to have more in common with the others who really want to learn.
Not sure if this will help you, I'd love to chat with you more about it here or at the email in my bio, because in helping you figure this out, maybe it'll help me and/or help me help others. If not, that's OK, too. I think you reaching out and asking for help is a huge step, having the courage to open up and show us a little more of what you're struggling with—I believe so much loneliness comes from closing ourselves off from others. So I'm grateful that you asked for this...thank you!
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#60"they're all full of lonely developers and other socially awkward people - short guys looking for girlfriends, unattractive/aging women looking for husbands, etc." So...people like you? you sound really judgemental man. Since you have no friends(so nothing to hold you where you are, right?), and apparently a good source of income, I'd advise you to go remote, travel, try digital nomadism, go to meetups, meet other tr…