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How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by Juliate »

bawolff wrote: post #3

> This is a GREAT one: “As a white man, I’d ask what they’ve done to find qualified women and minorities for the role I’m interviewing for.” I can't help but feel that asking questions during an interview that encourage the interviewer to hire someone who is not you, is a bad strategy for actually getting the job.

Getting _the_ job, not necessarily.

Getting a job in a decent and self-aware team, on the other hand, yes, that's a good strategy.

The question is both a direct and an indirect one.

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by hu3 »

lordnacho wrote: post #9

I'm not sure the diversity stuff helps. People who look different can still be dysfunctional. For me the big one is whether people in the interviews have the same mission. I went to an interview with a large investment bank where a friend turned out to be one of the interviewers. I thought highly of him, so naturally I thought his colleagues would be similar. He gave me the speil about what he does, sounded reasonabl…

Pardon my ignorance. What's MD in this context?

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by tyingq »

hu3 wrote: post #12
lordnacho wrote: post #9

I'm not sure the diversity stuff helps. People who look different can still be dysfunctional. For me the big one is whether people in the interviews have the same mission. I went to an interview with a large investment bank where a friend turned out to be one of the interviewers. I thought highly of him, so naturally I thought his colleagues would be similar. He gave me the speil about what he does, sounded reasonabl…

Pardon my ignorance. What's MD in this context?

Probably "Managing Director".

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by [deleted] »

hu3 wrote: post #12
lordnacho wrote: post #9

I'm not sure the diversity stuff helps. People who look different can still be dysfunctional. For me the big one is whether people in the interviews have the same mission. I went to an interview with a large investment bank where a friend turned out to be one of the interviewers. I thought highly of him, so naturally I thought his colleagues would be similar. He gave me the speil about what he does, sounded reasonabl…

Pardon my ignorance. What's MD in this context?

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Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by awakeasleep »

bawolff wrote: post #3

> This is a GREAT one: “As a white man, I’d ask what they’ve done to find qualified women and minorities for the role I’m interviewing for.” I can't help but feel that asking questions during an interview that encourage the interviewer to hire someone who is not you, is a bad strategy for actually getting the job.

This is a shibboleth virtue signal. Neither side takes it at face value

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by WithinReason »

awakeasleep wrote: post #15
bawolff wrote: post #3

> This is a GREAT one: “As a white man, I’d ask what they’ve done to find qualified women and minorities for the role I’m interviewing for.” I can't help but feel that asking questions during an interview that encourage the interviewer to hire someone who is not you, is a bad strategy for actually getting the job.

This is a shibboleth virtue signal. Neither side takes it at face value

I wonder if we're headed to a point where this kind of self-selection basically creates companies consisting of either people who are all about DEI, or people who only care about skills/qualification, then the market will decide which one is the winning strategy.

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by peakaboo »

bawolff wrote: post #3

> This is a GREAT one: “As a white man, I’d ask what they’ve done to find qualified women and minorities for the role I’m interviewing for.” I can't help but feel that asking questions during an interview that encourage the interviewer to hire someone who is not you, is a bad strategy for actually getting the job.

Diversity has nothing to do with company culture being good or bad in most cases.

Example: Let's say the company has 100 employees and 90 of them are white and 10 of them are black. As a white engineer, it won't help you if they invite more black people to work there.

It's much harder to know if 90% of them are assholes and diversity will never help with that.

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by mrkentutbabi »

bawolff wrote: post #3

> This is a GREAT one: “As a white man, I’d ask what they’ve done to find qualified women and minorities for the role I’m interviewing for.” I can't help but feel that asking questions during an interview that encourage the interviewer to hire someone who is not you, is a bad strategy for actually getting the job.

Yup this is “what the hell” for me.

I’m Asian

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by grammarnazzzi »

Juliate wrote: post #11
bawolff wrote: post #3

> This is a GREAT one: “As a white man, I’d ask what they’ve done to find qualified women and minorities for the role I’m interviewing for.” I can't help but feel that asking questions during an interview that encourage the interviewer to hire someone who is not you, is a bad strategy for actually getting the job.

Getting _the_ job, not necessarily. Getting a job in a decent and self-aware team, on the other hand, yes, that's a good strategy. The question is both a direct and an indirect one.

A decent and self-aware work team is one who treats each other as equals and respect and keeps their political beliefs outside the work environment.

An iterviewee who brings race into the discussion clearly doesn't understand work/personal boundries and is going to be a liability.

Re: How can you tell if the company youre interviewing with is rotten on the inside?

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Post by lordnacho »

hu3 wrote: post #12
lordnacho wrote: post #9

I'm not sure the diversity stuff helps. People who look different can still be dysfunctional. For me the big one is whether people in the interviews have the same mission. I went to an interview with a large investment bank where a friend turned out to be one of the interviewers. I thought highly of him, so naturally I thought his colleagues would be similar. He gave me the speil about what he does, sounded reasonabl…

Pardon my ignorance. What's MD in this context?

Managing Director, it's a sort of middle management role that a lot of people aspire to. Running a team, getting paid fairly decently.
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