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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by tekknik »

jrk wrote: post #560
tekknik wrote: post #535

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Right leaning software developer here. What are you talking about? Why do you think this has anything to do with political alignment? I find a suit as uncomfortable as anybody else. Dress code is more about public image in my experience than political alignment.

The use of "conservative" here doesn't seem to refer to political alignment. It is common to talk about "conservative business culture" and "conservative dress" to refer to cultural factors — exactly around things like expecting suits and ties. The parent post does not appear to be talking about politics.

Fair enough. Maybe be more specific next time in this highly politicized world?

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by darkerside »

Ancapistani wrote: post #519
darkerside wrote: post #380

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She's doing it for attention, and that's ok, right? People want to be noticed, and they want to control what others notice about them (see fashion industry). I think there's some give and take that comes along with that. I don't find it that surprising that the bust video was demonetized, or any of the others, frankly. That's the cost of expanding the Overton window, I guess.

> She's doing it for attention, and that's ok, right? I have no problem with her doing it for attention. I’m only saying that I don’t believe that’s her motivation.

Eh. I think we're all fooling ourselves when we say we're just doing anything for ourselves. People are just hardwired to seek the respect and approval and, yes, attention, of our peers.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by godDLL »

chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

Let me say something about what you wrote.

You're not telling us what you're thinking, or you're telling us something without thinking about it. What you posted reads like a collection of ideas and not an argument of any kind. The quality of individual constituents in that above collection seems suspect as well.

An argument might go something like: hypothesis, supporting evidence, prediction, theory, course of action.

What you wrote reads something like: prescription, direction, story, conjecture, prediction, dismissal of example to the contrary, proposed emotional response.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by spopejoy »

zozbot234 wrote: post #474
igetspam wrote: post #448

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Speak to feminist scholars. It's far more entrenched than that. We have numerous systems deeply entrenched in our model for society that encourage this, specifically against women. We create incentives for insecurity and then prey on it. Keeping women under a microscope, consciously or not, maintains the status quo in business, government, public spaces, etc and as you follow the path back, it almost always has roots…

Feminist scholars do well at diagnosing the problem. but they're terrible when it comes to arguing for good solutions. They mostly talk about ideology, and let's not kid ourselves: ideology (divisive ideology, at that) is not going to improve women's self esteem or lower their insecurity.

I doubt you actually read any feminist scholars. If you did you'd realize that there's no way to characterize them as they are all over the map, especially since they can fall into so many disciplines (philosophy, literature, sociology, political science, history, etc).

Feminism has an extremely broad remit and it's all based on the idea that actual ideology routinely boxes in half of the population in some way or another. It's just a fact, and thus there is endless study that can be undertaken.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by surge »

rambojazz wrote: post #397
aspaviento wrote: post #390

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I think you haven't heard about the new trend of naked yoga in youtube.

It's not a new trend either. I've heard about it for years.

That's terrible! Specifically what channels?*

*This is a bad joke

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by WesternWind »

tekknik wrote: post #561
jrk wrote: post #560

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The use of "conservative" here doesn't seem to refer to political alignment. It is common to talk about "conservative business culture" and "conservative dress" to refer to cultural factors — exactly around things like expecting suits and ties. The parent post does not appear to be talking about politics.

Fair enough. Maybe be more specific next time in this highly politicized world?

In a thread on about a chinese vlogger and techie, in a comment about a german company, maybe your perspective could be a bit more cosmopolitan?

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by tekknik »

WesternWind wrote: post #566
tekknik wrote: post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough. Maybe be more specific next time in this highly politicized world?

In a thread on about a chinese vlogger and techie, in a comment about a german company, maybe your perspective could be a bit more cosmopolitan?

Because the general idea of conservatism doesn’t exist in either of these countries? Try again.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by garfieldnate »

Maybe I'm silly to think this, but I don't think the reason for the unequal treatment is because the other creators were men, but because the boobs on the statue Naomi made were positively humongous, by the standards of the abstracted/idealized female nude figure which we are accustomed to treating as art. I remember being shocked the first time I encountered a nude statue in real life (had to travel outside the US to find them). I've gotten used to them now, but I would be shocked again if I encountered a city square with a naked statue with boobs this in-your-face big. The video might have been saved with just the elimination of the nipples. Male statues are actually a bit more restricted, because the ancient pieces like Michaelangelo's David that we are used to seeing in art have artificially tiny wieners. Won't be seeing any Jonah Falcon statues in public parks.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by srg0 »

mkl wrote: post #212
srg0 wrote: post #164

This HN title would really benefit from being a little more specific: "N.W. Demonetized on YouTube for Display of Inanimate Objects That Resemble Human Nudity".

"N.W." is much less specific than "Naomi Wu", and your title is too long for HN anyway.

As someone who managed to live without knowing who is Naomi Wu (though I might have seen her once or twice in YouTube suggestions), I think it's more important what is the basis for demonetization than the personality. HN title says nothing about it, and it is useless for anyone who is not already following N.W. directly or indirectly.

I do not suggest to shorten her name though, that's me being lazy typing on the phone. And my suggested title even with the name written in full is not longer than some other approved titles on HN.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by WesternWind »

tekknik wrote: post #567
WesternWind wrote: post #566

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a thread on about a chinese vlogger and techie, in a comment about a german company, maybe your perspective could be a bit more cosmopolitan?

Because the general idea of conservatism doesn’t exist in either of these countries? Try again.

There is no general idea of conservatism though. What's conservative in China, or Germany, or the US, it's radically different.

There are only specific cultural understandings, each of which almost always map poorly when applied cross culturally.

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