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Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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PG has experience in this space, remember. He played a role in helping detect and prevent spam back in the day. https://www.infoworld.com/article/2674702/techology-business...

But surely that experience being 20 years ago makes it, at best, academic? Should we act like a 20 year old experience makes someone an expert or just another person with an opinion on the internet? I cynically wonder how much credibility we give this tweet is due to the author having 1) a huge following and 2) lots and lots of money. And of course 3) it being posted on the forum for the company they founded.

This is a pretty insulting opinion to hold. It's not like the spam messages have gotten infinitely more complex over the last 20 years, or that someone who is a competent programmer just completely forgot everything that they know about a subject.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done. First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the e…

That's like saying a chef put a lot of effort into a meal so you can't say they did a good job

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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tweet> really hard day today, my great aunt died of covid after a long fight reply> I know we all probably must have heard about Bitcoin but don't know how it works, I tried it in a week ago and i made a return of $10500 after a week of trading, connect with my trader at @SpamBtcAccount1234

Sounds like the variable is whether one engages with Bitcoin discussion. I don't, and have observed no spam.

I pulled this reply from the most recent Associated Press tweet. Yeah, I'm sure they've mentioned Bitcoin at some point, but it has nothing to do with my Twitter usage.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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> I follow around 1000. I see almost zero spam. This whole thread is pretty confusing to me. Same here. I suppose I could go find spam if I start clicking on every Tweet from a high-profile person and scroll to the bottom of the comments, but the spam isn't jumping out at me on a regular basis. I suspect some people have a very low tolerance for any spam appearing anywhere on a platform, and will get easily triggered…

It's not just a few spam like tweets at the bottom of threads though. If you look at tweets by Elon Musk for example there will be loads, as replies at the top of the threads. Pretty weird how multiple people refuse to believe something can be a problem even though they can't see it.

It depends how twitter is organizing the replies or the device you use. Sometimes twitter arranges comments by newest first but other times it sorts them seemingly randomly. It used to be that verified accounts would always rank high, but then 2019-2020 twitter changed it so that they don't automatically get a ranking boost.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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I follow around 1000. I see almost zero spam. This whole thread is pretty confusing to me.

Same. I follow ~700 accounts, and have ~10000 followers, but I get minimal spam. The vast majority of engagements seem genuine. The last spam I got was where someone tagged me in some bullshit NFT giveaway, where entrants had to tag 5 of their "friends" to qualify. Definitely spam, but at a cursory glance, it was human-generated rather than bot spam.

Crypto spam is a curse. I get 3-4 reply to spams everyday. It is becoming such a nuisance so that I started a thread where I collect spam screeshots

https://twitter.com/moo9000/status/1481033447397277696

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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> To test this out, just Tweet something like “my Coinbase account isn’t working” Maybe this is the difference? Cryptocurrency attracts spammers and scammers at a rate far higher than other conversations. Now that you mention it, the only time I recall seeing spam lately was when I read the comments on some cryptocurrency Tweets. I usually avoid cryptocurrency discussions on Twitter because the signal to noise ratio…

This could be the case, but I suspect if you tweeted “how to reset my chase bank account password” you might get the same level of spam. I don’t think it’s only crypto, just amplified in crypto.

At the least I’ve certainly seen a bunch of account recovery service scams whenever someone tweets about an issue with Instagram etc.

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done. First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the e…

Option E: Nobody can even agree on what Twitter spam is. Is it bots? I follow a few bot accounts and get value out of them. Is it blatantly promotional content? This actually seems to be one of the intended uses of Twitter. Is it low-quality content? I feel like lots of people earnestly tweet out low-quality stuff, and who gets to judge what's low-quality anyway?

I enjoy the insinuation that the nature of some platforms makes spam classification a much more difficult task

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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Just tweet metamask lol - its the magic word. Edit: WARNING this will immediately fill your feed with spam. Don't click anything that you get.

they are probably not making any $ with this or else you would see the same sophistication that goes into this spam as you see with YouTube crypto spam. These guys are not on their A game here.

Can you tell us more about this YouTube crypto spam? How does it work? What makes it so effective?

Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?

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..I think they intend to "fix it" by making people's interactions on Twitter more narrow. They don't truly like the fact that Twitter is a bunch of popular people shouting into the void, they want to bring Twitter 'closer' to something like Facebook (but not exactly) where you are interacting with a closed loop of friends in order to engage more every-day (read: less popular) people. Anyone who has created an account…

> Anyone who has created an account on Twitter in recent years knows that new accounts are indiscriminately opted into new mandatory 'intelligent' social features like the purple star recommendations[0], while anyone with an old account will never see such a thing. Hmm I have an old account (Sep 2007) that sees purple star recommendations…

Weird, my 2014 account doesn't while all my newer ones do. Can't turn it off in newer accounts either (at least not without paying for Twitter Blue?) and definitely never had it on my older account
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