I just refactored my whole app from MongoDB to DGraph... Guys I really like this idea I don't want to abandon it. What should I do: eat section 13 of Mongo's license, or try to maintain a database server myself?
Quitting Dgraph Labs
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Re: Quitting Dgraph Labs
#32"They are now contemplating a few purchase offers. I have no control or say over this process. There’s a lot of politics. I’m a builder, not a politician and I see no point in staying on." The investors poured ~$15m into this company, and the board is now trying to fulfill its fiduciary duty by trying to recoup some of the invested capital. I understand that open-sourcing the code base would be a better outcome for i…
Open sourcing their code would be a terrible idea for the business unless they opted for a Elastic/MongoDB style license where you are prohibited from offering a cloud version of the code. Because you know AWS would be circling this news very closely for another product to add to their lineup.
I think AWS already has a graph DB product. https://aws.amazon.com/neptune/
Re: Quitting Dgraph Labs
#33We recently migrated our db to DGraph and are blown away by how good it is. This is really a bummer. I feel for Manish, hopefully the next steps can work out.
It's easy to roast a CEO from the sidelines when things go south, but it's really hard to build such good tech.
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#34I've followed Dgraph off and on. I enjoy looking through their open sourced work. A lot of it is interesting. Manish seems to be THAT person. The technically competent, unwavering to the technical vision, doesn't work well with others person at your company. He went on to found a startup so he could do what he wants, and unfortunately has now realized board members are very similar to managers at Google. Here's a blo…
Manish here. I don't know who you are or what your motivations are.
Glassdoor Reviews are anonymous (read trolls) and a lot of them were created post the layoffs, to create a story that would take the blame away from the hired CEO. Read between the lines about why the layoffs happened in the first place. If not, read this:
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Dgraph-Lab...
When you have nothing to say about a leader, it always works to say, "he didn't give a shit about his employees." That's not how companies get built.
These are the core values that we had created, which accurately reflect how I operate: https://discuss.dgraph.io/t/dgraph-core-values-v20-05-31/140...
So, no. I'm NOT THAT person.
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#35I've followed Dgraph off and on. I enjoy looking through their open sourced work. A lot of it is interesting. Manish seems to be THAT person. The technically competent, unwavering to the technical vision, doesn't work well with others person at your company. He went on to found a startup so he could do what he wants, and unfortunately has now realized board members are very similar to managers at Google. Here's a blo…
Manish here. I don't know who you are or what your motivations are. Glassdoor Reviews are anonymous (read trolls) and a lot of them were created post the layoffs, to create a story that would take the blame away from the hired CEO. Read between the lines about why the layoffs happened in the first place. If not, read this: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Dgraph-Lab... When you have nothing to say ab…
A lot of shit will be flung but the fact that the core team is on board with you to create Outcaste, a Dgraph fork, is a strong enough signal for many. Hopefully, you folks make it work!
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#36I've followed Dgraph off and on. I enjoy looking through their open sourced work. A lot of it is interesting. Manish seems to be THAT person. The technically competent, unwavering to the technical vision, doesn't work well with others person at your company. He went on to found a startup so he could do what he wants, and unfortunately has now realized board members are very similar to managers at Google. Here's a blo…
Manish here. I don't know who you are or what your motivations are. Glassdoor Reviews are anonymous (read trolls) and a lot of them were created post the layoffs, to create a story that would take the blame away from the hired CEO. Read between the lines about why the layoffs happened in the first place. If not, read this: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Dgraph-Lab... When you have nothing to say ab…
> I don't know who you are or what your motivations are.
I'm a rubbernecker passing by a car crash. I have no other motivations. I don't know you personally or anyone who works at Dgraph. I'm piecing together a guess of the culture from what's available externally.
I would love to read the details when you're ready to share.
Editing to say that the only reason I remembered the blog was because there were multiple parts of it that made me cringe when I initially read it:
> I can be a good CEO. I just can not be a good CEO, a good CTO, and the top engineer on the team for a highly technical product, all at the same time. If I could have found a true engineering replacement for me, I’d have stayed on as the CEO.
> And two, we lost a couple of deals last quarter due to engineering challenges I can help solve in weeks but would take my team months on their own. Some of these problems wouldn’t get solved without my help.
Publicly throwing your engineering team under the bus repeatedly isn't something you commonly see.
Re: Quitting Dgraph Labs
#37I just refactored my whole app from MongoDB to DGraph... Guys I really like this idea I don't want to abandon it. What should I do: eat section 13 of Mongo's license, or try to maintain a database server myself?
I'm not sure what "eat section 13 of Mongo's license" means, but if you're asking whether you should self-host Mongo or pay Mongo Corp to host it, I would say the latter. It's not that expensive, they have a nice management UI, failover, performance hints, backups etc..
And I say this as someone who doesn't like Mongo DB and believes it's almost always the wrong technology for business to use. But if you're using it, might as well get the experts to host it for you.
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#38I've followed Dgraph off and on. I enjoy looking through their open sourced work. A lot of it is interesting. Manish seems to be THAT person. The technically competent, unwavering to the technical vision, doesn't work well with others person at your company. He went on to found a startup so he could do what he wants, and unfortunately has now realized board members are very similar to managers at Google. Here's a blo…
If he is "THAT person" then why is the (rest of the) core Dgraph team also leaving and joining his new project?
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#39Badger has performed exceptionally well for us. Preferred over LevelDB/similar solutions.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Manish here. I don't know who you are or what your motivations are. Glassdoor Reviews are anonymous (read trolls) and a lot of them were created post the layoffs, to create a story that would take the blame away from the hired CEO. Read between the lines about why the layoffs happened in the first place. If not, read this: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Dgraph-Lab... When you have nothing to say ab…
> I don't know who you are or what your motivations are. I'm a rubbernecker passing by a car crash. I have no other motivations. I don't know you personally or anyone who works at Dgraph. I'm piecing together a guess of the culture from what's available externally. I would love to read the details when you're ready to share. Editing to say that the only reason I remembered the blog was because there were multiple par…
It sure seems like you used to work there since you're making specific critiques about company culture and decisions that only someone internal would know.
And you're taking statements like "lost a couple of deals last quarter due to engineering challenges" as being a personal slight against the engineering team when an impassioned observer would not really see it that way.
I don't know the specifics of Dgraph's failings but reading the Glassdoor reviews it sure looks like the main issue is that the CEO failed to organise a bridge round and that the disputes between the CEO and CTO and poor metrics meant the VCs didn't want to provide one.
You can fix any problem at a company except running out of money.