I remember seeing that in "A Christmas Story":
I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
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Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure if there is any historical evidence backing that up (IE, Tim Berners-Lee used Finger protocol as an inspiration. A lot of the UNIX protocols of the time were like that (NNTP in particular), simple call/response with textual commands and arguments.
Let's ask. Also 79 -> 80... that's a bit of a hint. Edit: asked.
I thought Finger itself was a copy of the Whois protocol, which runs on port 43. But that's backwards! According to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc812, sri-nic.arpa supported Whois in 01982, saying, "The NICNAME[/WHOIS] protocol is similar to the NAME/FINGER protocol (RFC 742)," and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc742 is from December 01977, explaining, "The FINGER program at SAIL, written by Les Earnest, was the inspiration for the NAME program on ITS."
Things like NNTP, SMTP, IRC, and FTP were pretty different from this family of protocols. They're textual, yes, but they're highly stateful protocols with lots of back-and-forth to get anything done. DNS, NFS, and SNMP (01988: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1067) were stateless, like Finger, Whois, and HTTP, but used optimized binary structures over UDP. In my view, though, the protocol semantics are a lot more important than its syntax, so I think HTTP is a lot more similar to DNS than to NNTP.
Later, FTP-like numerical status codes and long-lived connections got added back in to HTTP, but they weren't there in HTTP/0.9. Designed at the same time as HTTP, Gopher (port 70) was also a finger-style protocol, and I don't think it has status codes either.
Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#163A person I know studied in East Germany in the early 80s via a very limited exchange program. After the wall came down, she requested her Stasi file. It was fascinating what was in the file - lots of misunderstandings and misinterpretations. For example, she was upset when the Challenger exploded, and this mystified the Stasi informers who had previously identified her as a pacifist (in their minds, the Shuttle was 1…
Much of it was along the lines of "[fellow student] says [subject] was disinclined to denounce rent-control as a counter-revolutionary ploy during a late-night discussion with [other student]." or "[room mate] overheard [subject] calling her family in the US, and did not hear any overt discussion of politics."
Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#164Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#165My FBI file was for hacking into my school district's AS/400 that handled my school's attendance and grading system. Somehow using a public IP address with no access restrictions allowed a clear telnet path in from home. Compounding username and passwords that were all the same for every employee. I didn't change a thing, just LOLed and told someone. Bad mistake. This was the late 90s. Oh well, 2 week suspension and…
When I was 11 or 12 we had a bunch of old Windows (2000?) boxes with a shared network folder — all the students' files were in the same folder. I had just learned about basic batch file "programming" so I made one called Change Your Grades Click Here!!.bat which asked for your username and password (we had individual accounts on the Mac computers) and saved them to a hidden text file in the same folder. Most people d…
Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#166My FBI file was for hacking into my school district's AS/400 that handled my school's attendance and grading system. Somehow using a public IP address with no access restrictions allowed a clear telnet path in from home. Compounding username and passwords that were all the same for every employee. I didn't change a thing, just LOLed and told someone. Bad mistake. This was the late 90s. Oh well, 2 week suspension and…
Could you please explain what this means? Googling didn't reveal much.
Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#167For example, if you are browsing twitter and see a post of your country "liberating" its enemies. If your pupils and pulse indicate that you don't approve of your country's actions, suddenly you will lose some rights as a citizen. Maybe your house gets raided for "suspicion of terrorism"
With AR/VR devices about to go mainstream, this is very possible.
Any thoughts?
Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#168My FBI file was for hacking into my school district's AS/400 that handled my school's attendance and grading system. Somehow using a public IP address with no access restrictions allowed a clear telnet path in from home. Compounding username and passwords that were all the same for every employee. I didn't change a thing, just LOLed and told someone. Bad mistake. This was the late 90s. Oh well, 2 week suspension and…
Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#169Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never made that connection before, thank you!
I'm not sure if there is any historical evidence backing that up (IE, Tim Berners-Lee used Finger protocol as an inspiration. A lot of the UNIX protocols of the time were like that (NNTP in particular), simple call/response with textual commands and arguments.