Twitter doesn't care about spam?
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Twitter doesn't care about spam?
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Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?
#2I wonder if spam bots count in their monetizable daily active users count that Wall street looks for every quarter. Would sure explain a lot.
Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?
#3Relevant tweet from Elon Musk yesterday:
"Twitter is spending engineering resources on this bs [support for profile photo from NFT] while crypto scammers are throwing a spambot block party in every thread!?"
- https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1484456594775678976?cxt=...
Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?
#4I wonder if spam bots count in their monetizable daily active users count that Wall street looks for every quarter. Would sure explain a lot.
Does Wall Street still care about theoretically monetizable metrics like DAU from Twitter? I would think Wall Street is probably expecting real revenue and profit by now.
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#5We know, otherwise about 3/4 of all tweets ever made on the platform wouldn't exist.
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#6Of course they don't care about spam. It pumps their engagement numbers up. They have a direct financial incentive to let it continue.
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#7..I think they intend to "fix it" by making people's interactions on Twitter more narrow.
They don't truly like the fact that Twitter is a bunch of popular people shouting into the void, they want to bring Twitter 'closer' to something like Facebook (but not exactly) where you are interacting with a closed loop of friends in order to engage more every-day (read: less popular) people.
Anyone who has created an account on Twitter in recent years knows that new accounts are indiscriminately opted into new mandatory 'intelligent' social features like the purple star recommendations[0], while anyone with an old account will never see such a thing.
They're keeping their old user base, doing nothing to improve spam for them, while driving new users to a more closed-loop friend system where spam doesn't matter.
[0] https://twitter.com/mattthr/status/1009095580109426688?lang=...
Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?
#8I wonder if spam bots count in their monetizable daily active users count that Wall street looks for every quarter. Would sure explain a lot.
Does Wall Street still care about theoretically monetizable metrics like DAU from Twitter? I would think Wall Street is probably expecting real revenue and profit by now.
Yeah, I'd imagine the only real thing they care about is clickthrough rate at this point. Betting on DAU/MAU is a suckers game.
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#9Option d: nobody outside of the Twitter TnS teams (including Paul Graham) has any idea of what Twitter is detecting as spam and what not, and thus can't actually judge how good a job is being done.
First, we don't see the spam that was outright blocked, so we have no idea of what the false negative rate is. Second, I bet that this is not a binary block/allow decision, but there are all kinds of ways of reducing the engagement that probable spam gets without outright blocking. The latter is operationally preferable since it reduces the cost of false positives and since it makes the iteration loop for the spammers a lot slower.
(But also, I can't remember when I last saw spam in my Twitter feed.)
Re: Twitter doesn't care about spam?
#10It is even worse on youtube
Crypto giveaway livestream scammers stand to make from $300 million to -$1 billion/year
https://scaminvestigations.substack.com/p/youtube-crypto-giv...
https://twitter.com/saylor/status/1487141374386450440
The spam and scams are so persistent because they make so much money, the scammers invest considerable time evading the algos, staying one step ahead.