Live data from Hacker News

‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

airforcemag.com

171–180 of 264 posts

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#171

I will never understand when a company/government entity pay people a high salary then give them crap or low-end hardware. You should be maxing out dev machines and the rest of the company should rarely see a spinner or have to wait on their tech. It's a huge waste of time that you are paying for. I once calculated how much time I wasted waiting on slow processes at a job and then multiplied it by my effective hourly…

One big problem is misaligned incentives. At most big orgs, you have an infosec dept with authority to put all kinds of virus scanning, etc etc on every computer in the org. They get rewarded if there are no incidents; they do not get penalized if they make your machine impossible to use.

The same goes for the guy in the purchasing department who gets rewarded for his cost saving measures when he goes for Acer's cheapest laptop with a Pentium and 8GB RAM rather than something with a mid range CPU and 16GB of RAM.

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#172
post #98
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not actually such "low end spec" that would cause logins and mails to take an hour to process. To me, the whole ordeal screams: software bloat, software misconfiguration, background service overload. You could snappily send mail 15 years ago, and the computational task itself hasn't grown much, besides bloated browser login windows. Try booting a 2 GB RAM machine to some RAM-preloading Linux thumbdrive and you…

Have you tried using Windows 10/11 with on-access and behavioral AV (not defender) on 4gb of RAM and a 5400rpm spinning disk? I find it entirely plausible that they have to wait an hour plus for the machine to become remotely responsive.

I probably have experienced something close to this. You're right; it doesn't take many steps to make a modern machine slow.

Reading the article was indeed surprising and depressing - it certainly is a plausible scenario! The question is: is such a disfigured desktop experience an acceptable result, given that the physical hardware enables much, much more productivity?

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't even have to be low end hardware. I just gave back a laptop to a client that I was working with in healthcare. It's a 16" MBP with an i7 and 32GB of RAM. The machine itself is really fast but gets bogged down by all the other crap it has to connect to. They had McAfee endpoint security on these things and it would prevent any unauthorized apps from running as well as hog between 50-70% of the CPU during it…

God my work machine is like this. People (rightfully) complain about power use by crypto, but I wonder how much power is wasted by McAfee et al? I wish there would be public outcry over it :)

For years, techies made fun of people not running anti-virus software. Eventually, people came to accept that it was necessary. Then, the anti-virus software people launched a trove of crapware based on enterprise needs that ruined the concept of anti-virus. Now, techies are advocating to not run that crapware at all. There has to be an MBA course on this "how to build a bloated program designed by managers using all the buzzwords" type of thing.

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#174

Not to be missed in the article: The Air Force has a "chief of esports and virtual fitness"

The US army has sponsored development of games quite a lot; I remember a friend of mine who was really into America's Army, that must've been 15 years ago now.

That's called propaganda.

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#175
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not actually such "low end spec" that would cause logins and mails to take an hour to process. To me, the whole ordeal screams: software bloat, software misconfiguration, background service overload. You could snappily send mail 15 years ago, and the computational task itself hasn't grown much, besides bloated browser login windows. Try booting a 2 GB RAM machine to some RAM-preloading Linux thumbdrive and you…

Why wouldn't it? That's how long it takes to swap memory on an HDD, it doesn't surprise me, especially with how many resources today's browsers and sites consume.

Websites are also bloated with massive Javascript - it's just another source of awfully bloated, inefficient, bloody useless software!

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#176
It's not the hardware, it's the crap that runs on it.

You want a system which is secure and usable? Time for the DoD to commission their own OS.

"Nobody will know how to use it!" is an objection which can be overcome by training, which is a thing that the armed forces understand.

"It won't be compatible with the COTS!" is an advantage, not a disadvantage.

"It will take too long and cost too much!" means that they aren't in a good position now and lots of jobs will be created.

"Nobody wants to work on a military system!" is technically true, but run it out of NASA or the Department of Energy and develop it with an open source license (effectively a necessity, anyway). Also, it turns out that lots of people and companies will work on things when money is involved.

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of this is that IT is viewed as a cost center (well, because it is), and often "owns" the expense of issuing laptops. IT's objective is to ship you a laptop that will adequately run the software you need to perform your job duties. How efficiently you perform them becomes a problem for you and your manager.

I understand the basic reasons why but anyone who actually examines this has to come to the conclusion that it's a good idea to issue sub-par tech is penny wise and pound foolish. Heck, for developer satisfaction alone I think it's good idea to upgrade them yearly or every 2 years at most. Cycle those machines through your org or resell them. The depreciation lost in resale is tiny compared to increased efficiency an…

There's no where in the ledgers to record employee happiness

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't even have to be low end hardware. I just gave back a laptop to a client that I was working with in healthcare. It's a 16" MBP with an i7 and 32GB of RAM. The machine itself is really fast but gets bogged down by all the other crap it has to connect to. They had McAfee endpoint security on these things and it would prevent any unauthorized apps from running as well as hog between 50-70% of the CPU during it…

God my work machine is like this. People (rightfully) complain about power use by crypto, but I wonder how much power is wasted by McAfee et al? I wish there would be public outcry over it :)

Plot twist: McAfee is actually a crypto miner. Their secretly the most valuable company in the world.

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#179
post #176

It's not the hardware, it's the crap that runs on it. You want a system which is secure and usable? Time for the DoD to commission their own OS. "Nobody will know how to use it!" is an objection which can be overcome by training, which is a thing that the armed forces understand. "It won't be compatible with the COTS!" is an advantage, not a disadvantage. "It will take too long and cost too much!" means that they are…

COTS is useful in many circumstances, it is much quicker to field if you can reuse existing commercial software. The only advantage to being incompatible with COTS is that it would feed the defense contractor industry as they'd need replacements or compatibility layers that some contractor would happily provide for $1 billion and 3 years (with an extra $100 million/year after it's late).

Re: ‘Fix My Computer’ Cry Echos on Social Media; Air Force CIO Responds

#180

Why aren't aircraft made as simple to fly as cars are to drive? Why aren't regular people allowed to just get in an aircraft and start flying after a couple of hours of practice? We see no problem in assuming that people need the lowest-common-denominator operating system in computer to suit the people instead of the people learning how to use a proper computer, though. If something is mission critical, then it shoul…

Yes, let's put the incompetent buffoons who thought installing McAfee on every government computer was a good idea in charge of their rolling own Linux distro. That sure would solve all of these problems.

[deleted]
Post reply on HN