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Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by jevoten »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #63
jevoten wrote: post #29

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> Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account. If you’re trying to scroll deep into conversations or someone’s Tweets, it’s reasonable to expect that you’d need to become a user of the website. Oh of course. But then it should have been that way from the start . Instead they were user-friendly at first, and only once they'd grown eno…

> Instead they were user-friendly at first, Twitter’s experience for users today is the same as it was at the start. The word “user” is key, though. The experience has only changed for people who aren’t yet users (with logged in user accounts) of Twitter. > A bait and switch, tricking people into relying on them, This doesn’t really make sense. If you rely on Twitter, you make an account. You can’t really rely on Twi…

You're assuming that people with accounts don't care if people without accounts can't read their tweets (and can't read them anonymously), and that for some reason reading Twitter doesn't count as "using" it. Do they not show any ads if you're not logged in?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by ehvatum »

delecti wrote: post #55
jevoten wrote: post #29

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> Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account. If you’re trying to scroll deep into conversations or someone’s Tweets, it’s reasonable to expect that you’d need to become a user of the website. Oh of course. But then it should have been that way from the start . Instead they were user-friendly at first, and only once they'd grown eno…

Why would you not want an account on a website you rely on? It's one thing to complain that your occasional visits to twitter are more inconvenient now. But if you would go so far as to say that people rely on them, then it seems like a silly hill to die on for those people to resist creating an account.

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Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by factotvm »

delecti wrote: post #55
jevoten wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account. If you’re trying to scroll deep into conversations or someone’s Tweets, it’s reasonable to expect that you’d need to become a user of the website. Oh of course. But then it should have been that way from the start . Instead they were user-friendly at first, and only once they'd grown eno…

Why would you not want an account on a website you rely on? It's one thing to complain that your occasional visits to twitter are more inconvenient now. But if you would go so far as to say that people rely on them, then it seems like a silly hill to die on for those people to resist creating an account.

For me, it’s because I’m on my work machine. I don’t move my personal credentials to my work machine. (In fact, I moved over to my phone to write this comment.)

We could discuss that aspect—sharing accounts on computers that don’t belong to me—but that’s why I’m often thwarted from reading content. I have the account, just not on me.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by vidarh »

TomGullen wrote: post #70
AutumnCurtain wrote: post #34

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Old.reddit.com is the only remotely usable form of the website and seems to have none of the obnoxious popups.

The normal Reddit is completely usable - this is complete hyperbole

On desktop, yes. On Mobile, the normal reddit is ridiculously obnoxious unless you tick "desktop site".

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by jevoten »

slightwinder wrote: post #80
jevoten wrote: post #29

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> Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account. If you’re trying to scroll deep into conversations or someone’s Tweets, it’s reasonable to expect that you’d need to become a user of the website. Oh of course. But then it should have been that way from the start . Instead they were user-friendly at first, and only once they'd grown eno…

> But then it should have been that way from the start. Twitter is 15 years old. You can't except them to remain unchanged forever. Priorities change, people change, goals change. Didn't they change CEO some time ago? Then the latest change might be even something from the new managment.

Just like when a farmer decides to slaughter a pig for meat, it's because his "priorities changed" after he fattened it up.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by numpad0 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #5

> Unfortunately twitter is going the direction of quora, pinterest, facebook, and medium Don’t forget Reddit. Reddit’s login pop-ups are more aggressive than Twitter’s for me. > Now you can perhaps read ten tweets or replies to a linked tweet without an account before the same thing occurs Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account.…

Sending a text costs me 3 cents. 3G data used to cost 0.022-0.11 cents per 128 bytes. Nowadays it's like $75/mo. for 60GB, but at no point it had been free. Ultimately the source of problem is its lack of proper AAA which in turn enabled this ad economy.
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