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Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

#201

This is yet another many postings on HN recently that used term hacker as the culprit for what essentially a potential crime committed by cracker or intruder. You won't call a robber, an entrepreneur would you? Using the word hacker for those doing illegal activities just undermine the hackers community. Please use the correct terminology for the benefit of the relevant societies and communities.

If we want to talk about proper use of terminology, the word "hacker" was adopted by web 2.0 startup scene and became a bullshit buzzword. The original definition has nothing to do with entrepreneurship or malicious intent (as advertised by media and pop culture).

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We disagree a lot but I really like your post. Capitalism is a natural behaviour which emerge in human interactions. As you say, we're social animals and we interact with one another. The problem lies with the "capitalist" states which are not capitalism but crony capitalism, aka just socialism with extra steps. When a state with regulatory monopoly and a monopoly of violence exists, you can't have pure capitalism. B…

> as soon as you end up having an institution with the power to do something for a large number of people, you'll have power and corruption Honest question: What would lead you to this conclusion? I hear this sentiment often, but I've never understood how anyone could think so little of other people and (evidently) themselves. It sounds like you're saying you can't even trust yourself to resist corruption in a positi…

>>>> as soon as you end up having an institution with the power to do something for a large number of people, you'll have power and corruption Honest question: What would lead you to this conclusion?

Honest answer : With respect, because that's real-life works. Look around you. A senatorial campaigns will always amass millions in campaign contributions. The local comptroller candidate will be lucky to raise 100K. The more people are impacted by a single individual, the more power that single individual has. The more power is as stake, the more corrupt attempts to usurp that power.

>>>>It sounds like you're saying you can't even trust yourself to resist corruption in a position of power,

No. It means that money will color all your decisions and edge cases will tend to resolve in a particular way because a decision favored by your moneyed supporters will be easier to justify.

Take for example a doctor treating a heart attack patients with prior has cold-like symptoms . The doctor is marking the cause of death. The doctor has seen many doctors get laid off due to pandemic. Waiting rooms are overcrowded with patients dying due to lack of doctors & COVID. There's no money coming in - the state has suspended the traditional hospital cash cow: elective surgery. The hospital medical director looks like a ghost, and has been urging staff to not forget to label patients with COVID-like symptoms as COVID-positive, to obtain government fund support.

The doctor is sure the patient didn't die of COVID. The doctor is not even sure the patient had COVID. But there's no time to check. There are no tests, ICU is packed, and he's worried about other patients needing medical attention, plus the doctor knows his assessment could be wrong. So he puts down cause of death: COVID.

Is the doctor corrupt ? No. The doctor is human.

So are politicians. (particularly unvirtuous humans at that, unlike doctors)

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

#204
post #56

Plot twist: OP is the hacker trying to get control over a recently deleted community :) Just kidding

You joke, but this is a real concern for me ... even if I do get a person replying here, presumably the hacker used dodgy means of getting access in the first place! how can I definitively prove what I'm saying is true? My main hope is that it will be clear from the page's history that I've been involved from the very start, and the new "owner's" actions will look as suspicious to a real human as they do to me! In th…

I'd assume Facebook has been tracking IP addresses and other computer fingerprint info from the machine(s) you have been using to upload content.

The person who has taken ownership would have different machine fingerprint info.

So Facebook should be able to confirm you have been the main uploader for quite some time.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate your comment and I don’t mind putting my cards on the table: I am a Marxist. I believe in democratic institutions by the people and for the people. Capitalist states will never suffice. Social democracy is good, but unsustainable. Soviet Communism was a failure, but a single failure. Capitalism is a necessary step in human progress, but it cannot last. Libertarian solutions, as you propose, are no more i…

> My only issue with Mastadon is that regular busy working people with families to raise on depressingly low wages cannot justify the effort to participate. If if can’t work for all of our society, it can’t work for our society. Period. That's assuming it doesn't get simpler and cheaper over time. I don't think being hard to use is inherent rather it is because the technology is not yet mature.

I’m not necessarily assuming that! But I guess IRC still isn’t simple and cheap enough, and how long has that been around?

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

#209

You can do this on Reddit. No matter how successful and busy a subreddit may be without the presence of moderators, you can request ownership of a subreddit if the moderators have not been active in some time. I found this out when someone did it to me. I had an account that I only used for moderation duties. I didn’t need to post on it. My community was doing just fine. Well, Reddit transferred it to someone else an…

The downside to that is that you have to be on reddit.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

#210
post #33

I'm sorry that this happened to you. What i am about to propose is not a solution for you for now unfortunately. But maybe something to help for the future...Have you considered starting a new presence for yourself and your community on the fediverse (e.g. mastodon, pleroma, diaspora, friendica, etc.)?? This will take work and time of course and maybe not all members will follow you over, but if you start a new commu…

How would a distributed system help? Being on a distributed system wouldn't keep hackers from taking control of your self hosted page and hosing it.
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