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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by guiambros »

zozbot234 wrote: post #473
numpad0 wrote: post #470

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> The key here is advertisers don't want to be associated with that. Has this ever been substantiated or verified publicly? Which industry are those and why?

It's by far the most parsimonious explanation when anything halfway popular gets "demonetized". YT is a profit-seeking business, they're always going to work closely with advertisers. Content makers and users are secondary, almost nobody is paying for YouTube Red.

> ..almost nobody is paying for YouTube Red

Well, I'd say it's a bit more than "almost nobody" [1], even if you discount trialers.

[1] https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/50-million/

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by xenomachina »

marcellus23 wrote: post #408
xenomachina wrote: post #145

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> she's clearly making a bust of herself naked. I'm sure if I put my balls on YouTube they'd be more than demonetized. She's posted many examples of videos by other YouTubers (most, if not all, men) that show reconstructions of nude female busts. Here are some: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/148435177122526003...

How many views do those videos have though?

Not sure what the number of views has to do with anything, but this one has over 80k: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LwMokG2urk

Search for "391533" and you can find several others with thousands of views.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by bradlys »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #243
helsinkiandrew wrote: post #68

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She is a conundrum: is she titillating or expressing herself, or maximising her reach? It is a sad fact that if you took two women on youtube with equal talents and content - the one that "dressed up a little" would be more successful. I don't think that's the case with men (although Colin Furze and Integza do wear ties, maybe that's a factor in their success) It hard to see how YouTube can defend their actions - her…

> if you took two women on youtube with equal talents and content - the one that "dressed up a little" would be more successful. I don't think that's the case with men Of course it's also the case with men. The dude in a suit will absolutely garner more attention than the one looking like an unwashed hobo. Although some people may rally behind the hobo-look as challenging the norms.

Yeah - I don’t know why people find this hard to believe. The more physically attractive talent will always win over the less physically attractive given all other things are equal.

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Post by tekknik »

albertzeyer wrote: post #381
WesternWind wrote: post #371

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If you have the skills, it generally shouldn't matter what clothes you wear. Even if you don't have the skills, it generally shouldn't matter what clothes you wear. Like don't strap knives to your arms, and do wear a good mask, but generally we spend a lot of time policing other folk's bodies and attire, and for what?

It depends maybe on the circles you interact with, but in some circles, people are not taken seriously which try too much to adhere to the conservative business dress code by wearing a suite with tie. This is actually a common meme: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/fbwnd0/im_... https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/ajthjb/thi... https://www.quora.com/What-do-people-think-good-programmers…

Right leaning software developer here. What are you talking about? Why do you think this has anything to do with political alignment? I find a suit as uncomfortable as anybody else. Dress code is more about public image in my experience than political alignment.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by deterministic »

SexyCyborg wrote: post #264
raxxorrax wrote: post #188

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I don't really support to ban anything that could be seen as sexual, but if you put it out, some people will always judge you on that merit. It will also net you attention and can overshadow your other feats. Should she be condemned for that? I don't think so. But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence.

>But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence. There's a line between "never be the focus" and "we will erase you". This sort of thing is constant- but I'll give you a recent example- NPR recently ran this story: https://www.npr.org/2021/10/25/1047691984/decades-after-poli... About an American lady who needed some parts for her iron lung and how no one would help her. Only the thing is, th…

I admire the strength, conviction, humility and technical skills you are constantly showing. Please keep doing what you are doing. Some people can’t handle a beautiful woman who is smart, skilled, and choose her own way in life. That’s their problem. Not yours. Remember that for every low self-esteem hater out there, there are many others who support what you are doing and disagree with the haters. Years ago woman were not allowed to show their ankles in public. We have come a long way since then. But there will always be a small group of people who can’t handle independent woman who doesn’t conform to their ideas. Just ignore them. They are dinosaurs and will eventually die out.

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Post by mbrodersen »

seoulmetro wrote: post #525
Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

As someone who loves her videos, her physical appearance turns me off watching for any period of time. I would do the same if it were a half naked man showing me tech too. >so what? that's most of Instagram. I don't like watching the same physical appearances on places where they belong like TV, Movies or Instagram.... so no that's not "normal". If you merge making erotic cakes and cake baking on YouTube, expect a lo…

If you disagree with her looks then simply stop watching. Same for the people who try to stop her from doing what she does just because they don’t like how she looks. There is plenty of stuff out there I don’t like. But that doesn’t mean that it is OK to ban/stop them.

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Post by mbrodersen »

lelanthran wrote: post #233
chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

Yeah, sub out boobs with genitals in your argument, and replace men/man with women/woman and see if your argument is still sensible[1] when women complain that they have no wish to see male genitalia. You're complaining that men are the problem because women are the target, but I'm pretty certain a significant number of women also complain when a venue has unexpected partial female nudity. [1] Every culture draws the…

There will always be somebody complaining about everything. That doesn’t mean that it should be banned. I don’t like loud people in restaurants. I don’t like people drinking in the streets. I don’t like noisy souped up cars. I don’t like people playing loud music in their cars. I don’t like rich assholes. So should we ban all of that? Of course not. We all have to compromise to some degree to make society work. It used to be the case that woman were not allowed to show their ankles in public. I am sure back then you would agree with this because conservative types always disagree with anything that changes status quo. Especially when it comes to woman.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

SexyCyborg wrote: post #4
tdeck wrote: post #3

Clarification: from the thread it appears that this one specific video has been demonetized rather than the entire channel.

Yes, it's a regular occurrence, not the whole channel yet. And technically it's "reduced monetization" but that works out to a 90% drop in income on those videos. And again, before all of HN jumps on me, yes I get why, and agree why, but no I'm not doing it for the reasons many of you think and will want to chastise me for. I really do just look like this. If it was just a matter of changing outfits like a normal fun…

you really shouldn't have to make an explanation video. noone is going to explain to you why they feel the way they do...why should you? you do your thing. it is what it is. accept people's opinion or it seems like you expect them to accept you.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by seoulmetro »

kragen wrote: post #529
seoulmetro wrote: post #526

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This sounds like you don't understand nudity or context. Which are core principles to this discussion...

On the contrary, I think the reason the inconsistency is obvious to me is that I understand nudity and context depressingly well. The relevant context difference is that Naomi is a woman.

No, you definitely do not understand nudity or the context. That is not the context.

One, you think nudity is in bodybuilding. It's not.

Two, you think the context of whatever Naomi is doing requires her to hang her nude bits out. It doesn't, that's her choice. It's also people's choice to not like it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with being sexy. I don't see Naomi as sexy at all as a heterosexual male. She just screams forced and faked. Those aren't sexy to me. They are sexual though.

It's all about being close to nudity for impractical reasons. Context matters and the definition of nudity matters.

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