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Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by MrsPeaches »

emteycz wrote: post #158
Jolter wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, yes, the famously communist France. (Pages Jaunes are operated by Orange, previously state monopoly France Telecom.) Just as you say, these monopolies are all deregulated and sold off. But they were all developed and operated by monopolies for many decades, successfully. Your attempt to call non-communist things communist is a bit annoying. You could benefit from using the same terminology as the rest of the worl…

You picked one example where it doesn't fit while there are at least 8 EU countries that did exactly what I said. BTW yes here in Central/Eastern EU we deem France very very leftist, just few small steps away from full-on socialism.

Famously communist UK as well. BT (British Telecom) was the state owned telecom provider that also ran the phone books.

And famously communist Germany with Deutsche Telekom (Formerly part of the national post system, privatised in 1995) that also made telephone books. Also worth noting that the German government still has a significant stake in Deutsche Telekom.

Oh and famously communist Netherlands with KPN the state run post and telecoms provider.

And famously communist Spain with Telefonica being previously majority owned by the state (under Franco no less).

I mean most of European telecoms seem to have been state owned until the early 90s.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by Laforet »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #140

You can do this on Reddit. No matter how successful and busy a subreddit may be without the presence of moderators, you can request ownership of a subreddit if the moderators have not been active in some time. I found this out when someone did it to me. I had an account that I only used for moderation duties. I didn’t need to post on it. My community was doing just fine. Well, Reddit transferred it to someone else an…

The reverse can also happen with people hoarding subreddits and refuse to hand them over to more eager people. Even when it is clear their interest have moved on, reddit admins will refuse usurpation requests because "the moderator is active".

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by stjohnswarts »

Do you know how you got hacked? I mean did you have 2FA? phone number? Did they manage to get around a plain old password that was weak enough to brute force? I'm surprised that facebook wouldn't be like "you tried 10 times, go away and try again in 24 hours".

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by astura »

throwaway946513 wrote: post #63
scarface74 wrote: post #57

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Exactly how does commerce happen without banks at any scale? Banking has been around a lot longer than social media.

The unbanked Americans are people who either are unable to open an account, or have been denied opening accounts. To cash their checks, keep their income, etc..., they have to pay much more in fees. Historically (in the U.S.) it was rooted in racism post-U.S. civil war. Now, less so. The history is still there, and the inability of poor people to obtain an account still exist. It excludes people from getting mortgage…

I know a few "unbanked" people.

Some know don't have a bank account because they simply don't trust banks. They want to have access to 100% of their money 100% of the time.

Some don't have a bank account because they don't have income (adult dependents)

One didn't have a bank account because she was a minor and there was no adult around willing or able to open one for her to use.

When I was a kid I knew of a few adults who had bank accounts closed on them for check kiting, including my parents - I know of this because I overheard people talking about it quite a lot. I don't know what ended up happening after that, if they were able to open a new account or what. I know you probably wouldn't be able to open a new account nowadays with Chexsystem and the like. Of course, check kiting also isn't a thing anymore either.

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Post by b112 »

ygjb wrote: post #145
b112 wrote: post #120

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FYI, corps like Bell Canada, Telus, BCttel were not government owned, department or crown corp. They were just highly protected by government regulation. The only ones allowed to do certain things, along with mandated Canadian ownership requirements. They had a defacto monopoly.

Yeah, I am talking about Crown Corporations like MTS, Petro-Canada, BC Ferries, and such that were taken private, not the telecoms protectionism that is currently screwing over consumers in Canada, they are quite different. I don't object to open markets, but I also think there is a space for crown corporations with a mandate to operate competitively (which strong oversight) for the benefit of Canadians (or citizens…

There is. I found Petro Canada to be a fascinating use case too.

Inject yourself into an absurd market, with price fixing, to force competition.

And in the long term, it profited us quite well, including as we sold it off.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by karlzt »

metalised wrote: post #137

Update: I updated my blog to reflect the discussion taking place here: https://metalised.wordpress.com/2022/01/27/metalised-faceboo... Thank you everyone for your support and vivid discussion. I hope this manages to reach the right eyeballs eventually! ---- Further update: I can't edit the post itself anymore, but someone from Meta reached out! Thank you so much, kind stranger, and thank you HN! You rock!

Consider putting it on Telegram, as you may know Telegram is growing faster than ever before.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by cheschire »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #128
nopenopenopeno wrote: post #102

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I appreciate your comment and I don’t mind putting my cards on the table: I am a Marxist. I believe in democratic institutions by the people and for the people. Capitalist states will never suffice. Social democracy is good, but unsustainable. Soviet Communism was a failure, but a single failure. Capitalism is a necessary step in human progress, but it cannot last. Libertarian solutions, as you propose, are no more i…

We disagree a lot but I really like your post. Capitalism is a natural behaviour which emerge in human interactions. As you say, we're social animals and we interact with one another. The problem lies with the "capitalist" states which are not capitalism but crony capitalism, aka just socialism with extra steps. When a state with regulatory monopoly and a monopoly of violence exists, you can't have pure capitalism. B…

"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."

How do you create a self-reinforcing decentralized system that actively prevents centralization, to the point where no individual nor stand-alone complex can rise up?

We have so much fiction produced talking about the capacity for life to find a way around limitations, artificial or natural. I cannot imagine anything other than utopian fantasy where full decentralization succeeds long term.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users

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Post by metalised »

tonypags wrote: post #139

Any chance you can share the topic of the FB group? I'm curious to know if it was politically motivated (even non-political topics can have their own, internal politics, too). Maybe someone is trying to silence you?

It is the facebook page for my blog, https://metalised.wordpress.com which largely exists for the end-of-year best metal album reviews these days.

These reviews get cross-posted on the facebook page, and tend to be very popular, both by fans and featured bands alike.

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