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Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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He sells those too.

Yeah the point is if you want actual ownership of the music you buy then digital is not the way to go.

I can purchase audio files in 24-bit 192KHz with no DRM from his website. Although it's not a physical item like a CD, I can in practical terms do whatever I want with such a file once I've bought it, including burning it to a compact disc (or even Blu-Ray audio). In what sense is that worse than a purchase of a 16-bit 44.1 KHz CD?

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

#62

Neil Young seems pretty on top of things, generally. You can buy any of his music DRM-free directly: https://store.neilyoungarchives.com/

Or you can just buy a record....

a record that deteriorates each time you play in (albeit in what most consider to be sonically pleasing way) ... and was probably pressed from a digital master, meaning DAC has already happened several times..

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

#63

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He sells those too.

Yeah the point is if you want actual ownership of the music you buy then digital is not the way to go.

I mean, a DRM-free uncompressed file will be yours as long as you can back it up.. a CD will delaminate in a few decades, vinyl will warp, tapes demagnetize..

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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This is the same kind of rhetoric Rogan uses to say nothing and make it sound like it's a worthwhile opinion. Yeah, taking ivermectin to treat covid despite doctor's advice is objectively dangerous... people have actually died trying to take horse de-wormer. Rogan still spreads this nonsense. You're appreciative of Joe having Jordan Peterson on to ramble about things like "climate doesn't exist"? In the same episode…

Hyperbole like this doesn't help. I'm not an advocate of ivermectin because I have no idea what the science is behind it, but calling it horse dewormer is just disingenuous. This is like the leftist version of the right wing media calling Seattle's CHOP/CHAZ a war zone.

I mean, it's not hyperbolic, it's literally used to de-worm horses.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

#65

This story makes me cringe. I hate this idea of saying I won't do business with you if you do business with this other entity. What if Neil Young was a much bigger profit source. Then Spotify would be in tough position.

Good. That's the Market at Work™

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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Authoritarians?

Yep I know this might be hard to understand for people that have been brainwashed into this attitude in the last decade but trying to silence ideas you disagree with is an authoritarian stance. You are on the same wavelength as religious zealots that burn "evil" books when you do this.

lol /r/IAmVerySmart material here. WAKE UP SHEEPLE. LMAO he thinks he's smart.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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I don't think he expected them to drop Rogan, I think he just did this out of principal, but it really ended up being embarrassing for him. It was an opportunity to hear a collective "Who?" out of the under-50 demographic, and reminded a lot of fans that they hadn't listened to him in many years. It came off like he was shouting his irrelevancy from the rooftops. I hope he gained some sense of satisfaction or peace f…

I mean, I'm sure you have way more experience than Neil Young at irrelevance and being a nobody, so I'm inclined to defer to your expertise.

This is needlessly confrontational and insulting. I'm not making fun of Neil Young. I'm a fan and always will be. I'm still going to listen to his music. I legitimately felt bad for him because what he did was an instant PR disaster.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same kind of rhetoric Rogan uses to say nothing and make it sound like it's a worthwhile opinion. Yeah, taking ivermectin to treat covid despite doctor's advice is objectively dangerous... people have actually died trying to take horse de-wormer. Rogan still spreads this nonsense. You're appreciative of Joe having Jordan Peterson on to ramble about things like "climate doesn't exist"? In the same episode…

Hyperbole like this doesn't help. I'm not an advocate of ivermectin because I have no idea what the science is behind it, but calling it horse dewormer is just disingenuous. This is like the leftist version of the right wing media calling Seattle's CHOP/CHAZ a war zone.

Veterinarians were literally turning people away because they were attempting to buy actual horse de-wormer. This isn't hyperbole. Some people poisoned themselves.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

#69

Is this at all surprising? Spotify paid a lot of money to have Rogan on their platform because he (supposedly) makes them more money. Young gave a request of the "choose-him-or-me" variety, and Spotify honored that request. I doubt Young's body of work really amounts to much money for Spotify. Did Young really think that Spotify would drop Rogan over him? Would he have preferred to keep the status quo? I believe Youn…

It's a win for Young too - Spotify complying to the request shows they lack a spine!

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

#70

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He sells those too.

Yeah the point is if you want actual ownership of the music you buy then digital is not the way to go.

Huh? I buy (not rent) digital downloads of lossless music all the time (phish). Note: that's not ownership of music. The band owns the copyright of the live recording and the digital download is really just a physical license that happens to permit you to listen to it if you have physical possession of it.
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