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Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#101

If you've got time for the long game, consider building your network by mentoring STEM students. Years ago at a previous job my boss donated a CAD workstation and some CNC time to the local public highschool's robotics team, then coordinated with their supervising teacher to have a couple employees (including me) mentor there one afternoon per week for the school year. As a mentor, I helped students understand compil…

>While it took a couple years to pay off

You're operating under a time frame most startups don't dare. Most startups are trying to sell to a FAANG in the time it would take a highschool student to graduate undergrad.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#102
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We ended up making use of hiring partners (basically consultancy companies) for this. They gave us access to a somewhat vetted candidate pool to interview from i.e. they could skip a tech test stage of an interview process. Overall it has been a positive experience. It allowed us to scale up our engineering numbers relatively quickly. Potential cons to consider are the culture changes that come with it, the risk of o…

Wouldn't this be vastly more expensive? (like, 2-3x?)

Pass, wasn't privy to the financials on this one.

What I do know is that for various reasons we struggled with direct hires and needed to grow quickly. So I guess the numbers somehow worked in its favour.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#103
Advice from somebody currently job searching in the UK:

1. Post your jobs on LinkedIn and Glassdoor. Any other website is basically pointless (maybe HN's Who is Hiring? at the beginning of the month can get you some attention too) because people only search on these, and any other website is flooded only with job ads from consultancies and recruitment agencies so yours won't pop up.

2. Add your salary ranges in your job's description, otherwise you will get people that apply expecting more than you can offer and you waste both of yours time (I've been told this by companies during the interview, they wanted to make sure I saw the ranges and it fits with what I expect).

3. Replace your "take home challenge" with a "live coding session" (if you have one). This will attract older people that are married/have kids which usually can't set aside 4 hours during the evenings or weekends even if they wanted too, due to family responsibilities. This will show them you respect them, so you can spin it up as a "benefit" of applying. If you can detail the entire job interview process in the job post and how long it takes, then even better!

4. You're in Tewkesbury, engineers probably want to be in London, so let them know you offer a WeWork office in there too, if they need it. Otherwise your location is going to put off many people.

5. Make sure you actually answer when somebody sends you an email with an application, or questions. Many don't, be better than them. If you don't have an email address where people can send you questions then make one, or allow them to send you messages "InMail" on LinkedIn.

6. Please don't ask about previous salary, or personal details like sexual orientation or things like this during the interview process, like those creepy Greenhouse job application forms. I can't believe this is not illegal in the UK. If somebody at your company does this currently, tell them not to anymore.

That being said, if you had any jobs related to Ruby on Rails with a possibility to transition to Engineering Management in the next 1-2 years, I would have applied.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#104

If you've got time for the long game, consider building your network by mentoring STEM students. Years ago at a previous job my boss donated a CAD workstation and some CNC time to the local public highschool's robotics team, then coordinated with their supervising teacher to have a couple employees (including me) mentor there one afternoon per week for the school year. As a mentor, I helped students understand compil…

>While it took a couple years to pay off You're operating under a time frame most startups don't dare. Most startups are trying to sell to a FAANG in the time it would take a highschool student to graduate undergrad.

They did say "if you've got time for the long game".

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#105

Well… I can share how we get often get 1000+ applicants and end up with a few incredibly talented individuals joining us. I should note: The companies I’m hiring for are not (yet) household names. Most of our employees had never heard our company names before applying. We’re not offering crazy salaries — we just aim for market-rate. And we’re not using external recruiters to help. We have some recruitment costs, but…

- 20 hour mini-project (50% filtered out — 2 left)

Is this paid? This seems like an awful lot of hoops to make people jump through.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one likes this dance of "do they want seniors at half my current rate?". This is the reason I don't even bother with permanent roles in startups anymore. Every time the budget ends up being disappointing and about half my current income. Even worse when they approach me on a platform where they can see my profile & history and infer very well what I currently make and still proceed to pitch me their terrible rol…

> Every time the budget ends up being disappointing and about half my current income. Protip: on the very first call, say “My current salary is XY. A competing offer is in your budget?” Protip2: XY doesn’t have to be your actual salary, use a number that is your desired floor to start the negotiation from.

I get the impression that in the long term and on average, people benefit more from being honest.

So how about just saying, "I'm currently only considering positions with salary XY. Is that in your budget?"

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#107
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I'm on the other side of this currently; how do I find small companies like these? There are "HN: Who is hiring?" posts, but apart from those, do any of you have a good strategy when it comes to picking a new, yet unknown, employer like OP?

Just for context; I'm from Central Europe, have 7 years of experience in a world-class Mobile app company and am searching for remote options, mainly in the states.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#108

If you've got time for the long game, consider building your network by mentoring STEM students. Years ago at a previous job my boss donated a CAD workstation and some CNC time to the local public highschool's robotics team, then coordinated with their supervising teacher to have a couple employees (including me) mentor there one afternoon per week for the school year. As a mentor, I helped students understand compil…

Wish I had heard about these opportunities, I spent 5 years inside FRC and got nothing but this lousy t-shirt...

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Where are the places that developers show up? On HN and Twitter. Do something to spread awareness of your company. It will be a long journey, but if you don't have $$$ to throw at a problem, you need to find alternatives: - There's a monthly "Who is hiring" thread on HN every 1st day of a month. - Create a technical blog. When it gets popular and people see that it's high quality, brand awareness will increase. It ta…

Also: think about all the candidates you implicitly reject and others reject. They are an opportunity. Hire people that no one else wants (for wrong reasons). Go to universities and hire motivated juniors. Offer paid internships etc. Highly recommend to follow https://twitter.com/gergelyorosz

The vast majority of candidates are applying because they got bounced around and have to apply everywhere due to not being qualified. If you're a no-name firm paying merely around market rate you're not even going to see the high performers because they've already been snapped up by bigger or higher paying players.

I don't know a single person from my college days who I'd describe as a strong performer that would have taken a job from a random startup (i.e. no name recognition of founders or investors) for subpar pay. The people who ended up working at these no-name companies with subpar pay were almost always 1x or 0.5x programmers, whereas many of the people I knew who got A/A+ in OS and compiler classes were easily 10x programmers capable of building complex products from scratch.

Not saying we don't need 1x programmers but if you're a startup I think paying 3x salary for a 10x programmer is a much better deal than hiring 3 1x programmers.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#110
This question comes up every so often. All I can say is money talks. I know money isn't everything but I'll be damned if I ever go through another battery of interviews, code tests, behavioral screens etc just to find the position pays $50k. Never again.

Money talks.

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