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Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea how popular Neil Young is, but I can imagine this can boost his popularity which then he can cash in somehow.

I imagine leaving the most popular streaming platform is going to be hurt financially in the long run.

I really don't think Neil Young cares about lost Spotify revenue at all. He's already wealthy and at 76 years old and this is more about publicity for something he believes in.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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Is this at all surprising? Spotify paid a lot of money to have Rogan on their platform because he (supposedly) makes them more money. Young gave a request of the "choose-him-or-me" variety, and Spotify honored that request. I doubt Young's body of work really amounts to much money for Spotify. Did Young really think that Spotify would drop Rogan over him? Would he have preferred to keep the status quo? I believe Youn…

> Young gave a request of the "choose-him-or-me" variety

Young's request was unconditional. "I want you to let Spotify know immediately TODAY that I want all my music off their platform." Probably he would reconsider if they dropped Rogan. Certainly he expected they wouldn't.

He has fuck you money and a history of taking stands. All of us are talking about what he wanted people talking about. Surely he'd like if it started a movement. I think he got everything he expected though.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine leaving the most popular streaming platform is going to be hurt financially in the long run.

Maybe not; Spotify is famous for how little they pay artists for song plays. Most artists seem to think of it as a marketing channel like radio, not a revenue source.

> Spotify is famous for how little they pay artists for song plays

Maybe, but

> 60% of Young's streaming revenue comes from Spotify meaning the move is likely to cost him and his record label, Warner Bros[1]

So what "little" they paid him was still the majority of what he was making. And I think it will be hard for someone from his genre (1960's/70's) to make a come back. Most people under 35ish-40 have never heard of him and likely won't listen due to the genre.

[1] https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/01/27/spotify-grants-n...

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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The reaction to Rogan is like the religious right’s reaction to Howard Stern. If you don’t like it don’t listen to his show.

There's 'don't like' and then there's 'dangerous anti-scientific medical advice'. Can you appreciate there's a difference?

Pretty sure some in the religious right considered Howard Stern dangerous in corrupting the youth or society. Really depends on how you define when speech becomes considered dangerous.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neil will be the first of many to do it.

Do you believe that for empirical reasons or ideological reasons? So far this appears to be false.

I think they are just articulating NY's actual reasoning.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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Of course they choose to ignore misinformation over Neil Young. It's about who brings in the most money. Now if Taylor Swift, Adele and all the other big celebs follow suit that could pressure things, but think all those big names have too much too lose vs Neil Young, especially over such a devise topic where even if they 'won' and went back on Spotify they'd lose a lot of listeners in the long run and most young celebs aren't going to lay on the sword.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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post #19

The reaction to Rogan is like the religious right’s reaction to Howard Stern. If you don’t like it don’t listen to his show.

There's 'don't like' and then there's 'dangerous anti-scientific medical advice'. Can you appreciate there's a difference?

What dangerous, anti-scientific medical advice has Joe Rogan given?

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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post #19

The reaction to Rogan is like the religious right’s reaction to Howard Stern. If you don’t like it don’t listen to his show.

There's 'don't like' and then there's 'dangerous anti-scientific medical advice'. Can you appreciate there's a difference?

> dangerous anti-scientific medical advice'

That sounds like an opinion. One that lacks substance and likely couldn't actually be proven as stated, but an opinion I'm happy you can express openly. I'm also appreciative of other opinions I hear on Joe's show, and others. Can you appreciate that building up a false dichotomy and then asking someone if they can spot the difference is disingenuous?

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's 'don't like' and then there's 'dangerous anti-scientific medical advice'. Can you appreciate there's a difference?

What dangerous, anti-scientific medical advice has Joe Rogan given?

I'll forgive you for being unable to use a search engine to find out because the results are now all about this spat, but for years he's been telling people that vaccines (pre-covid) cause autism, which anyone with half a brain (which disqualifies Rogan) knows is dangerous bullshit.

Re: Spotify sides with Joe Rogan, removes Neil Young’s music

#40

Neil Young seems pretty on top of things, generally. You can buy any of his music DRM-free directly: https://store.neilyoungarchives.com/

Or you can just buy a record....

He sells those too.
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