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SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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Why? Tumbleweed is the rolling baseline. SLES is the major release branched off that, every 2 years. Leap is a regular release of tumbleweed, rebased to SLES, to get current packages. MicroOS is a configuration and repackaging of dunno, leap probably So they have one baseline, all of them, openSUSE Liberty Linux is a repackaging of rocky Linux, no? Which ad I said, suse had been doing already before. And the ranger/k…

MicroOS is actually based on Tumbleweed. It’s immutable/atomic. I’ve been checking it out and am super impressed. Fits a lot of my use cases.

Oh please don't get me wrong, openSUSE Kubic is the best kubernetes distro i ever had/have...i just think they are too many names for a product...tumbleweed is also the other (not better or worse) arch distribution....but fu* off with btrfs, linux has ~one stable filesystem and it is xfs or zfs ;)

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I don't quite get it, is the base SuSE or RHEL? I've always liked SuSE so we will see what will come out of this.

The article says that it's RH userland with an RH-compatible kernel built from SUSE sources: > All of the userland of the new distro will be built from Red Hat's official Source RPMs (SRPMs), with the exception of the kernel. That comes from SUSE's own SLE enterprise distribution, currently on version 15 SP3, but compiled using a Red Hat-compatible configuration.

I don't get it why they are not taking the kernel also. To me this seems like a potential conflict/maintenance nightmare. You will have to keep an eye out on all RHEL package updates and SuSE kernel updates.

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The article says that it's RH userland with an RH-compatible kernel built from SUSE sources: > All of the userland of the new distro will be built from Red Hat's official Source RPMs (SRPMs), with the exception of the kernel. That comes from SUSE's own SLE enterprise distribution, currently on version 15 SP3, but compiled using a Red Hat-compatible configuration.

I don't get it why they are not taking the kernel also. To me this seems like a potential conflict/maintenance nightmare. You will have to keep an eye out on all RHEL package updates and SuSE kernel updates.

Long term release kernels are a maintenance nightmare, and have barely any difference in functionality. The maintenance burden of having 1 is already very huge, I don't see why they would add 1 more if what they have already works

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Past performance is no guarantee of future performance. Some environments simply can't live with that risk.

CentOS Stream is just a hair’s breadth from as stable as CentOS ever was… anyone who wants to quibble with the size of the hair should just buy RHEL.

CentOS Stream's last podman major version update broke 70% of my company's infrastructure, affecting 120+ employees and our customers. It was a bug that couldn't be fixed without reverting the version, but we had to revert the whole update because all kinds of dependencies also got updated. We switched to Rocky the next day, on all VMs, and haven't had trouble since. We never had trouble with the original Centos (7 and 8).

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MicroOS is actually based on Tumbleweed. It’s immutable/atomic. I’ve been checking it out and am super impressed. Fits a lot of my use cases.

Oh please don't get me wrong, openSUSE Kubic is the best kubernetes distro i ever had/have...i just think they are too many names for a product...tumbleweed is also the other (not better or worse) arch distribution....but fu* off with btrfs, linux has ~one stable filesystem and it is xfs or zfs ;)

Reiser anyone ;-)

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CentOS Stream is just a hair’s breadth from as stable as CentOS ever was… anyone who wants to quibble with the size of the hair should just buy RHEL.

CentOS Stream's last podman major version update broke 70% of my company's infrastructure, affecting 120+ employees and our customers. It was a bug that couldn't be fixed without reverting the version, but we had to revert the whole update because all kinds of dependencies also got updated. We switched to Rocky the next day, on all VMs, and haven't had trouble since. We never had trouble with the original Centos (7 a…

70% of your company’s infrastructure and the productivity of 120+ people relied on a server OS without so much as a support contract? Seems risky, indeed.

Re: SUSE announces Liberty Linux, new distro for those who miss the old CentOS

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CentOS Stream is just a hair’s breadth from as stable as CentOS ever was… anyone who wants to quibble with the size of the hair should just buy RHEL.

CentOS Stream's last podman major version update broke 70% of my company's infrastructure, affecting 120+ employees and our customers. It was a bug that couldn't be fixed without reverting the version, but we had to revert the whole update because all kinds of dependencies also got updated. We switched to Rocky the next day, on all VMs, and haven't had trouble since. We never had trouble with the original Centos (7 a…

You're going to have this problem with the next EL point release anyway, because the only thing CentOS Stream does is give it to you earlier...
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