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Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Primarily I would say use recruiters, either external ones (you'll have very mixed results here, be prepared to sift through a ton of barely relevant CVs), or hire a recruiter as part of your core team. Either way as a small company you're going to get very few candidates who seek you out and decide to apply, the job of a recruiter is to go out and find good candidates for you and then sell them on applying for a job…

Recruitment fairs are very important either way; if people know your company exists, they're more likely to take a look.

Maybe also host some user group meetups or whatever. Word of mouth is very powerful. My current employer (same town as previous) is small, and it was even smaller when I joined. Still, I heard about it somewhere and applied.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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I work for a small-ish engineering firm on a small rock off the Norwegian coast. The local labour market for engineers, technicians and developers is pretty much empty - as in, everybody with the skills required and the desire to live here already does. Recruiting more often than not means sniping, or, if we're lucky - that someone has recently found a partner with desirable skills and coaxed them into moving up here…

Do you not hire remotely from the entirety of the European Union? Would you consider hiring a web developer with 4 years of experience, of which 2.5 is backend and 1.5 is full stack (HTML, CSS, JS within a CMS)? I am asking because that reflects my situation and I am having a difficult time interviewing with most people expecting 3+ year exclusively in frontend. I have been trying to make a switch from backend to fro…

Hey, we're hiring frontend engineers remotely, feel free to reach out to my e-mail on my profile! :-)

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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I found my previous job with a very small company on Indeed, but it was the only job I applied for on there because Indeed is full of garbage postings that barely describe the job, don't give a salary range, etc. I also got bombed with recruiter spam. I had just about given up on them when I came across the posting for my previous job, which was one of the only authentic postings I came across in a few weeks of searching. So, not a great experience, but you might get lucky with it or similar sites.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Well… I can share how we get often get 1000+ applicants and end up with a few incredibly talented individuals joining us.

I should note:

The companies I’m hiring for are not (yet) household names. Most of our employees had never heard our company names before applying.

We’re not offering crazy salaries — we just aim for market-rate.

And we’re not using external recruiters to help. We have some recruitment costs, but they’re relatively low.

So… how do we do it?

1. We hire remotely.

We do care about timezone, and we avoid a few countries due to the legal challenges of hiring there, but we’re not restricted to only hiring in a given city (or even country).

This massively increases the pool of talent that could meet our needs.

2. We identify the things that make us special.

It’s not the salary, our company name, or the job title.

It is:

- Our core values, where we combine a focus on impact with enjoying the journey

- The opportunity to work in a small and rapidly growing company, where you can learn loads and make a huge impact

- Being profitable, so the above benefit isn’t combined with high stress

- The opportunity to work was directly with successful entrepreneurs

- Our wider benefits package, including 40 days vacation leave, 4 months paternity/maternity leave, an annual in-person meet-up, and so on.

To the right person, these are huge!

3. We create an ad which _really_ sells this message

We do not have an ad titled “Mid-level developer (JavaScript, NodeJS, React)”

We have an ad titled “Join our remote team and enjoy work-life balance as a Full Stack Developer (JavaScript, NodeJS, React)”

Spot the difference? :)

You can review the rest of one of ads here: https://docs.spidergap.com/en/articles/2011605-join-our-remo...

4. We post on job boards

Our favorite for developers used to be StackOverflow. It cost £3–5k but was worth it for the quality of applicants. Sadly they’ve stopped supporting job ads now.

We also use weworkremotely.com. Posting here is cheap, and your ad will get picked up a number of other remote job boards for free.

5. We ask 3 simple questions to start the filtering process (— and we do NOT look at their resumes — at least not yet)

We want to make it easy for the right candidates to start the process, but in doing so we’re going to get a lot of junk.

So we ask 3 simple questions:

- What’s your proudest achievement, and why?

- What’s your favorite non-fiction book, and why?

- Which of our features do you like the most, and why?

80% of the applicants will fall at this first hurdle.

Loads will fall due to poor English, or by giving one word answers.

A surprising number will answer the 3rd question with “I haven’t looked, sorry!”

They aren’t difficult questions, so we should be looking for great answers. And some answers will stand out. So they’ll go through.

Reviewing these applicants is quick — well under a minute each on average. But it still takes time with 1000 applicants, so we do outsource some of this work to a virtual assistant.

6. We then have a sequence of steps to filter it down further.

For a developer, these would be:

- Answer 2 coding challenges (75% filtered out again — ~62 candidates left from 1000)

- 15 minute core values and communications interview (50% filtered out — 31 left)

- 30 minute dev team interview (50% filtered out — 15 left)

- 90 minute head of department interview (75% filtered out — 4 left)

- 20 hour mini-project (50% filtered out — 2 left)

Yep… after 6 stages, we've turned 1000 hopeful applicants into just 2 outstanding candidates who we offer jobs to.

Now — it’s worth noting that for other roles (sales, HR, finance, etc.), we have fewer steps (e.g. there’s no mini project as we’re can effectively test their ability in the interviews) and a much higher rate of great candidates get to the end of the process.

Hiring developers is particularly hard because we maintain a high bar for engineering talent, and fewer candidates meet our expectations for communications etc.

To manage this process, we simply have a series of forms and checklists. We’ve used Podio in the past, but expect to be using AirManual to manage the whole process for future roles :)

In both cases, you’re getting a very affordable and flexible tool — we’ve seen no need to spend $1000s on an expensive recruitment tool.

7. We offer a job to the great candidates we’re able to hire!

8. If we can’t hire everyone who makes it this far, we ask them to join our “farm team”

This concept, and many of the other ideas in our process, came from “How to Hire A-Players” by Eric Herrenkohl.

Recruitment takes a lot of time, so it’s every manager’s responsibility to build a farm team of people who we’d love to hire, and are keen to join in future.

When the next job comes up, we know exactly who to reach out to!

And… that’s it.

Hope that's useful :)

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

#85

You open source some of your existing code, then hire the people that you find working on expanding it in their free time.

Eh, like 99% of existing OSS projects never get serious contributions from external developers.

This strategy can work only if your company is behind very high profile/successful projects.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Where are the places that developers show up? On HN and Twitter. Do something to spread awareness of your company. It will be a long journey, but if you don't have $$$ to throw at a problem, you need to find alternatives: - There's a monthly "Who is hiring" thread on HN every 1st day of a month. - Create a technical blog. When it gets popular and people see that it's high quality, brand awareness will increase. It ta…

> No one likes this dance of "do they want seniors at half my current rate?". This is the reason I don't even bother with permanent roles in startups anymore. Every time the budget ends up being disappointing and about half my current income. Even worse when they approach me on a platform where they can see my profile & history and infer very well what I currently make and still proceed to pitch me their terrible rol…

> Every time the budget ends up being disappointing and about half my current income.

Protip: on the very first call, say “My current salary is XY. A competing offer is in your budget?”

Protip2: XY doesn’t have to be your actual salary, use a number that is your desired floor to start the negotiation from.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Sounds like you are wanting top tier talent. In this case I agree then recruiters and job boards are not by themselves going to get you top tier talent.

My suggestion is to look at compensation / benefits package. If you have a great benefits package then you are more likely to attract that top tier talent you are looking for.

Of course this is going to cost, great candidates don't come cheap.

Look at paying £100k+ for the best.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Medium and good developers usually look at well known (at least locally) companies for a job. Small companies are generally known for lower salaries, less expertise and sometimes strange owner or management, so the problem you have is lack of reasons for people to apply.

Advertising on your own web site has a very low reach if you are just a small company; who do you think will look this way? At least post it on some job sites; also post in local community groups, like local Facebook groups, if any, unless you are in a large city where this will not work. You can also use LinkedIn, but I don't know what is the cost in UK.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Are looking for local dev/designers only? Remote first is the hot thing right now, so maybe that would help as it would be more attractive. PS: I'm a 30 year old dude from a 3rd world country learning how to code. I'm not good, yet, but I'm hard working and I learn fast. Just trying my luck, but do you guys take an apprentice? Or maybe in need of customer support? I'm just looking to learn. What's in for you is cost…

Remote can be challenging for different reasons. We do have remote (UK only) folks but as soon as you extend that to other countries, it is kind of like offshoring but without the value-add of local management. Risk are: * Time zones can cause things to take a long time to resolve * Cultural differences can be confusing (like people who say, "yes" to be polite, not because the answer is yes!) * The legal protections…

I totally agree with you, but you have to provide something attractive for the people you want to hire. You mentioned FAANG, and you know why they get so much attention? They pay 40% above market rate. If you can't attract people with money, you have to find something else. An even with all the challenges, remote work is what attract people nowadays. Try putting yourself in the shoes of those who are looking for work.

Re: Ask HN: How do small companies do recruitment?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not hire remotely from the entirety of the European Union? Would you consider hiring a web developer with 4 years of experience, of which 2.5 is backend and 1.5 is full stack (HTML, CSS, JS within a CMS)? I am asking because that reflects my situation and I am having a difficult time interviewing with most people expecting 3+ year exclusively in frontend. I have been trying to make a switch from backend to fro…

Hey, we're hiring frontend engineers remotely, feel free to reach out to my e-mail on my profile! :-)

Anything for apprentice? Would even take a customer support role. I'm a 30 dude from a third world country making a career switch and learning how to code.
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