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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by M4v3R »

dragonwriter wrote: post #293
M4v3R wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Her videos are not taken down, just have what YT calls "limited monetization". How does she know the same does not apply to other YouTubers she pointed out? Afaik the monetization status is not displayed anywhere on the site for anyone else than the channel owner.

> How does she know the same does not apply to other YouTubers she pointed out? She could have just watched the videos from a non-Premium account (or not logged in) and tracked the kinds of ads shown.

If that's the case then I would love to know how reliable this method is, and whether she actually did this research before making the claim that other videos are not demonetized. If there really are not while hers is, then obviously YouTube has a problem.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by lightwords »

M4v3R wrote: post #297
aloisdg wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA. that's why.

Except it's not an USA thing. Here in Europe showing nipples in a public place is also considered nudity and generally frowned upon. It's a cultural thing, no need to attribute ideology to it. And the culture is shifting - just a century ago it was considered not modest if you wore shorts or short skirts, or two-piece swimsuits, now it's normal and accepted.

It's a USA thing. Where I'm from in the nordics they have bus advertisements with nipples on them. There is no issue with breastfeeding or semi-translucent clothing in most of Europe. Look at european cinema and TV, there is a lot of nudity.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by chii »

kstenerud wrote: post #26
oceanghost wrote: post #5

Sigh... while talented, she is constantly pushing the boundaries of taste and the YouTube TOS to gain subscribers. She pretends to be some women's rights activist when she's really just a purveyor of some weird type of titillation. Yes the algorithm is capricious, yes its arbitrary, and yes YouTube is evil. But she's clearly making a bust of herself naked. I'm sure if I put my balls on YouTube they'd be more than dem…

So did Madonna. And for good reason. Quite often one needs to take a more direct approach because these misogynistic policies are so ingrained that people actually believe them to be natural . One needs to be in-your-face to get past that. We like to scoff at Muslims and their backwards policies about women, and yet somehow Western societies are blind to their own - so much so that we need to be told from time to tim…

> We like to scoff at Muslims and their backwards policies about women, and yet somehow Western societies are blind to their own

it's the american (or western?) exceptionalism at play - the bar is set to the _current_ western level, and muslim rules that the taliban abide by are seen as a lower level of civility (where civility is defined as _western social mores_).

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by pseudalopex »

drekipus wrote: post #205
chrischen wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sexualization is in the eye of the beholder. In most cases, men. So men can’t keep it in their pants so women have to surgically reduce their breast sizes to accommodate some boundary of sexualization set by men?

You don't believe they're real, right?

She said she had implants. Do you think she can remove them without surgery?

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by stavros »

Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

> She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work.

That's fucked up. Why would someone accuse anyone of being a fake, just because they didn't look a certain way? Detestable.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by bborud »

oceanghost wrote: post #5

Sigh... while talented, she is constantly pushing the boundaries of taste and the YouTube TOS to gain subscribers. She pretends to be some women's rights activist when she's really just a purveyor of some weird type of titillation. Yes the algorithm is capricious, yes its arbitrary, and yes YouTube is evil. But she's clearly making a bust of herself naked. I'm sure if I put my balls on YouTube they'd be more than dem…

> She pretends to be some women's rights activist when she's really just a > purveyor of some weird type of titillation.

I don't see why she can't both be a women's rights activist and be a "purveyor of some weird type of titillation". It gets dangerously close to another ugly argument: that immodest clothing diminishes the culpability of a rapist.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by mchaver »

SexyCyborg wrote: post #264
raxxorrax wrote: post #188

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I don't really support to ban anything that could be seen as sexual, but if you put it out, some people will always judge you on that merit. It will also net you attention and can overshadow your other feats. Should she be condemned for that? I don't think so. But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence.

>But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence. There's a line between "never be the focus" and "we will erase you". This sort of thing is constant- but I'll give you a recent example- NPR recently ran this story: https://www.npr.org/2021/10/25/1047691984/decades-after-poli... About an American lady who needed some parts for her iron lung and how no one would help her. Only the thing is, th…

I just want to say that your work and determination in the face of adversity is inspiring. Thank you!

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by tremon »

fxtentacle wrote: post #223
SexyCyborg wrote: post #70

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>She is a conundrum: is she titillating or expressing herself, or maximising her reach? Initially, before I was Outed I could not explain any of it. Which was...frustrating at the time to say the least. Now, as shitty as getting Outted was I can at least reference part of the explanation: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/139660466709473690... But as to the rest, I'm still on the fence. I'd like to explain, b…

I'm pretty sure that explaining things will not help here. I mean the demonetization and ToS stuff on YouTube isn't really about Google trying to enforce their morals onto the rest of the world, it's mostly about them making money. Even today, there's a surprisingly high number of very conservative people living in the US & EU. That's why abortions are illegal (or a gray area) and why questions like "Is it immoral fo…

it's mostly about them making money.

This excuse really needs to go. It's empty. How a company chooses to make money is an indication of internal culture, and it determines the place the company has in overall society. Every company needs to make money, so what? That doesn't give them carte-blanche in their operations, not even in the US.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by psyc »

gfykvfyxgc wrote: post #306

YouTube has no problem with all the “bikini try on” channels. Hard to see why YouTube would have a problem with Naomi Wu.

If all the porn sites went away, I could definitely make due with YouTube. There's of course a subreddit about it (/r/youtubetitties). You can show breasts, even enormous breasts, in the context of breastfeeding, hand expression (which is an established fetish category on porn sites, and the ones made for the porn sites do end up on YouTube, and don't get taken down), exams, self-exams, reduction consults, augmentation consults, topless protests, artsy film and stage productions, and so on.

However, I have no idea whether any or all of that is also demonetized. So maybe it doesn't mean anything, I dunno. I just noticed it's kind of easy to misread demonetized as demonized.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kragen »

M4v3R wrote: post #288
xenomachina wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> she's clearly making a bust of herself naked. I'm sure if I put my balls on YouTube they'd be more than demonetized. She's posted many examples of videos by other YouTubers (most, if not all, men) that show reconstructions of nude female busts. Here are some: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/148435177122526003...

Her videos are not taken down, just have what YT calls "limited monetization". How does she know the same does not apply to other YouTubers she pointed out? Afaik the monetization status is not displayed anywhere on the site for anyone else than the channel owner.

They're friends of hers.
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