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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

th0ma5 wrote: post #123
SexyCyborg wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be used against me to further discredit my technical work. There are plenty of people who would love to be able to accurately refer to me as an "Only Fans model".

I often think of your public statements against SJW issues and people diminishes your feminist work. I think the technical work stands on its own for sure.

>I often think of your public statements against SJW issues and people diminishes your feminist work.

Who's a feminist? Those disappear where I'm from. Thing is marginalized women living in circumstances that would make most of those busybodies shit themselves don't need to collect enough ideological compliance head pats and "atta girls" to get a "good feminist" sticker on our foreheads. We have praxis.

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Post by pjc50 »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #148
drawfloat wrote: post #19

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Not being funny, but there are plenty of western countries that don't go around censoring this stuff. There's one massive leader in it.

"Name three"

Dailymotion, the French youtube competitor, used to have a "Red" section on its front page, next to "Sport" "News" etc, where they kept all the nudity. That all got deleted in one of their acquisitions.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by fxtentacle »

SexyCyborg wrote: post #70
helsinkiandrew wrote: post #68

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She is a conundrum: is she titillating or expressing herself, or maximising her reach? It is a sad fact that if you took two women on youtube with equal talents and content - the one that "dressed up a little" would be more successful. I don't think that's the case with men (although Colin Furze and Integza do wear ties, maybe that's a factor in their success) It hard to see how YouTube can defend their actions - her…

>She is a conundrum: is she titillating or expressing herself, or maximising her reach? Initially, before I was Outed I could not explain any of it. Which was...frustrating at the time to say the least. Now, as shitty as getting Outted was I can at least reference part of the explanation: https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/139660466709473690... But as to the rest, I'm still on the fence. I'd like to explain, b…

I'm pretty sure that explaining things will not help here.

I mean the demonetization and ToS stuff on YouTube isn't really about Google trying to enforce their morals onto the rest of the world, it's mostly about them making money.

Even today, there's a surprisingly high number of very conservative people living in the US & EU. That's why abortions are illegal (or a gray area) and why questions like "Is it immoral for unmarried women to get pregnant?" still get almost 50% yes. Plus the US has a really odd relationship with breasts. Murder on TV is fine but show titties and you're adult-only. I believe it's because so many people are devoted Christians and have matching puritan views. People still say "god bless America" quite often if you consider that modern science suggests that god probably doesn't exist.

With that in mind, any content that might anger or drive away the more conservative &/ religious half of YouTube's viewers is risky business for YouTube. They probably couldn't sell you to enough advertisers, which is why they are now refusing to pay you. For them, it's just profit optimization. And that means explaining things wouldn't help.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

Well said

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Post by pasquinelli »

colechristensen wrote: post #169
oceanghost wrote: post #5

Sigh... while talented, she is constantly pushing the boundaries of taste and the YouTube TOS to gain subscribers. She pretends to be some women's rights activist when she's really just a purveyor of some weird type of titillation. Yes the algorithm is capricious, yes its arbitrary, and yes YouTube is evil. But she's clearly making a bust of herself naked. I'm sure if I put my balls on YouTube they'd be more than dem…

But who cares? We don’t have puritans or religious nutjobs doing it any more… now it’s Google, Facebook, and Amazon. A naked woman is only as big is a deal as you make her, just label content accurately and as long as nobody is getting hurt, let it be.

the united states is puritan. we always think we've broken away from our puritanical roots, when really we've just found new expressions of our puritanism.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by pjc50 »

dvh wrote: post #144
SexyCyborg wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be used against me to further discredit my technical work. There are plenty of people who would love to be able to accurately refer to me as an "Only Fans model".

How about that math teacher that published his lessons on pornhub?

His.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by feupan »

chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

> It takes a man to do the sexualization, so the sexualization isn't the boob

I think you’re trying to rewrite the books that mention erogenous zones. Go read them instead. Boobs are sexual.

Having said that, sexuality is not the problem; prudeness is. A vagina could be sexual and still be fine to be uncovered, as it is/was in some cultures.

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Post by rhizome31 »

sul_tasto wrote: post #216
chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

I hear what you’re saying and I understand your points regarding men. At the same time, at least in the US, I think it’s important to acknowledge that a lot of judgmental criticism directed at women comes from other women.

I think this is acknowledged by any serious feminist. Women can be sexist just as men can be feminist.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by pjc50 »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #214
pjc50 wrote: post #201

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> cherish, value and respect each other Nothing says "we value you" like demonetization. /s

What do you mean ? The behaviour of each and every woman should be unquestionably praised and supported in order to support equality ? This is preposterous.

Merely that demonetizing her work is literally setting its value to zero. What do you mean by "valuing"?
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