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Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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I think you're drastically overestimating the fear the elites have about unionization. It's relatively easy to outsource jobs or replace with automation/robots.

This is historically provably false? Lots of things are still not automatable - hence humans are needed, and subsequently, mistreated.

Hence outsourcing argument.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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> It's a reddit. My favorite reddit, and the only reason I go to Reddit anymore. I have never been to that subreddit, what's the regular content about?

Second oldest topic: complaining about work

What's the first one? Politics?

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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The host was quite respectful and only asked reasonable questions.

Watters is not a reasonable journalist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Watters#Controversies .

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Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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She said she would like to teach critical thinking. How unbelievably rich. The host made the excellent point that in this market, the hardest you will work is determined by how hard people in general are willing to work. The market decides how hard you are expected to work, not your boss or the Illuminati. It’s the same something-for-nothing logic-vacuum that led to communism and the massive corruption that followed.

>The market decides how hard you are expected to work That's like saying house prices in San Francisco are set by how much people are willing to pay. It's true but hides the real problem which is housing is unaffordable for many in that area.

It doesn’t hide anything. If the price is too high then something is wrong. In your case it’s restraint on supply and in labor the problem is people who don’t know the value of what they have and never put any consideration into making themselves difficult to push around. They jump into precarious financial circumstances, but expensive things and pump out babies and when it comes time to negotiate they have zero leverage. The behavior of the average American is retarded and spoiled. That’s why people from Asia come here and shoot straight to the top — because their parents actually make deliberate decisions to advance their socioeconomic position.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Never talk to the media. That goes double for right-wing media. They aren't your friends, all they care about is pushing their narrative. They will steam-roll you and ruin your life for ratings / views.

The host was quite respectful and only asked reasonable questions.

The host was clearly contemptuous.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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It's not so much that the problem is being a dog walker, it's that she's a dog walker who only works 20-25 hours a week and believes people should work even less . And that her response to Fox News's question about whether they were being lazy was "Laziness is a virtue". This mod made previous posts about how she literally sleeps on the job[1], so this isn't about a noble career choice, it's just about laziness. She…

”Essentially the issue here is that the subreddit started years ago not as a discussion of worker rights reforms, but of people wanting to figure out how to work as little as possible, period” What else are worker rights in the 2020s? We only have one life, why not enjoy it like the men in suits?

I'm anti-work in the sense, that there are too many bullshit jobs, income discrepancy is way too high and across the board, jobs require a large amount of in my opinion unreasonable things of their workers, like believing in the vision on the surface, showing up everyday at specific hours etc. Nonetheless, I like working, even in the range of 50+ hours a week, I just also think that our society would be much better if I and others weren't forced to do so to survive. The thing is that lazy people are exactly on of the biggest inhibitors of reforms in that direction.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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The part that Fox hit the nail on the head was asking them what they really wanted to do in life. They responded saying to teach Philosophy, now all jokes aside, what's stopping this person from going after that? This movement that this person supports isn't going to get them to where they want to be in life, or atleast have a go. Like all things people have their own interpretation of what "anti-work" is. For me it'…

Off-topic: Amazon or in general delivery workers are a case where the IT industry heavily failed to improve work or be a positive influence. Instead of providing people with information, they are put under heavy surveillance. This is the only application a lot of the older generation can think of when the topic of digitisation comes up, but it is not restricted to that.

The consequence is an inhumanly clocked working schedule for people in that field. But consumers support it too. The ability to not track a package results in a moderate life crisis. A benign benefit that has severe results on the job. No wonder nobody wants to do deliveries anymore.

This phenomenon does extend to other industries like any production. Surveillance of production is sensible, surveillance of people is not and I don't think there is any benefit to it and a lot of negatives.

In that regard I understand why people just don't want to work in such an environment. It doesn't even net increased productivity.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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The entire thing was a disaster, start to finish. If you're going on Fox News, at least clean your room, put on something other than a sweatshirt, and come PREPARED. You have to know that Fox is going to ask you horribly loaded questions that aim to make you seem like the biggest fool on earth. But the funny part is, they didn't even do that. The questions asked pretty much amounted to "What are your aspirations?" an…

Doesn't matter. Fox News selected this guy for a reason.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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The personal attacks and especially acting like dog walking is some lowly profession is just disgusting. Anyone doing anything "ambitious" is only being held up by the support of many others making just as meaningful contributions. A dog walker provides a great service to a community that impacts many peoples lives by keeping their companions, which provide emotional support and boost their productivity, healthy and…

Agreed. I am almost happy that CS has an increasingly bad reputation because I detest the hype and the impact of parts of the industry. To be honest I smiled a bit at the thought that dog walker is an occupation in the US, but why the heck not. You are right that it is toxic to condemn it. Perhaps it is even jealously of office terrorists.

Still, the judgement will come anyway, even if you believe being a dog walker is much better than being a slimy Fox News anchor.

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