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Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

supperburg wrote: post #4

She said she would like to teach critical thinking. How unbelievably rich. The host made the excellent point that in this market, the hardest you will work is determined by how hard people in general are willing to work. The market decides how hard you are expected to work, not your boss or the Illuminati. It’s the same something-for-nothing logic-vacuum that led to communism and the massive corruption that followed.

>The market decides how hard you are expected to work

That's like saying house prices in San Francisco are set by how much people are willing to pay. It's true but hides the real problem which is housing is unaffordable for many in that area.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by soared »

anonygler wrote: post #29
alexb_ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth mentioning that they have autism, which is why they aren't making eye contact and are rocking in their chair. Although that is probably a better reason to not be on the show at all if you are trying to present yourself as a large-scale movement to millions of viewers.

It’s a zoom call. Autistic people are capable of basic discipline. They’re clearly not medically disabled.

I don’t think it’s okay to make a medical diagnosis about someone based on a 5 minute video.

The mod of the sub said they have autism, so that is not what the person you’re replying to did.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by ajkdhcb2 »

datavirtue wrote: post #9

Movement? It's a reddit. My favorite reddit, and the only reason I go to Reddit anymore. That is the problem and that's why the fear level of the elites (about unionization) is elevated enough to start running hatchet jobs on a forum.

My first thought when I heard about this story was to wonder if the 'elites' were involved in nudging this convenient disaster to happen in some shady way

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by alexb_ »

soared wrote: post #39
alexb_ wrote: post #26

The entire thing was a disaster, start to finish. If you're going on Fox News, at least clean your room, put on something other than a sweatshirt, and come PREPARED. You have to know that Fox is going to ask you horribly loaded questions that aim to make you seem like the biggest fool on earth. But the funny part is, they didn't even do that. The questions asked pretty much amounted to "What are your aspirations?" an…

[2] doesn’t seem to support your claim?

How so? Masturbating next to someone after they specifically told them it made them uncomfortable, inappropriate touching, and purposefully turning off alarms specifically set to stop this from happening again out of "desperation for emotional intamacy". Then going to talk about it as if it wasn't her fault and it's actually okay now because she went to therapy except she didn't because it's too expensive but it's actually okay because she gave money to an organization....

Call it like it is. It's insanely rapey. I have no remorse for people who do things like this, and then try to play the victim.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by kova12 »

Datenstrom wrote: post #17
joecot wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not so much that the problem is being a dog walker, it's that she's a dog walker who only works 20-25 hours a week and believes people should work even less . And that her response to Fox News's question about whether they were being lazy was "Laziness is a virtue". This mod made previous posts about how she literally sleeps on the job[1], so this isn't about a noble career choice, it's just about laziness. She…

Thanks for the missing context I haven't been following the news around this in any detail. Also, I agree it was politically a bad move and she should have expected it and prepared better. Just him mocking aspiring to be a dog walker really revolted me. I deeply appreciate everyone who does things for me so I can be doing other things that interest me no matter what they might be.

walking dogs for living is surely a valid life choice, it's just not a type of career you would expect from leader of a movement.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

#46

Post by alexb_ »

anonygler wrote: post #34
alexb_ wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, I'm not trying to defend her. But do you think that autism goes away when it's a zoom call or something? I think that it's a perfectly fine explanation for no eye contact/rocking, as both are common symptoms of autism. Think it's a bit rash to immediately assume they are "clearly not medically disabled".

In the past people would hold themselves to a high standard and celebrate triumph over adversity. Today people are fetishizing this “neurodivergent” psychosis and it’s downright weird. This person could absolutely sit still if they every bothered to have priorities in their life. I refuse to respect this weird trend.

I understand your concern. Two things to note though:

1. Who are you to immediately assume that they are lying, as if that's the best explanation? Not every single person who has autism has the ability to completely repress everything about it. To assume otherwise is nothing short of ableism - and I'm not using that word lightly. I absolutely do get the concern though - words DO need meaning.

2. You say "Today people are fetishizing this neurodivergent psychosis" as if this is a recent trend. It's not. At all. Tuberculosis was a disease that was romanticized in the early 19th century, and the obsession with thin & pale bodies in culture is theorized to have originated from this. I'm not gonna claim to be an expert to this however, so if someone reading this knows more about this subject than I do then please chime in.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by wiseowise »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #21
joecot wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not so much that the problem is being a dog walker, it's that she's a dog walker who only works 20-25 hours a week and believes people should work even less . And that her response to Fox News's question about whether they were being lazy was "Laziness is a virtue". This mod made previous posts about how she literally sleeps on the job[1], so this isn't about a noble career choice, it's just about laziness. She…

”Essentially the issue here is that the subreddit started years ago not as a discussion of worker rights reforms, but of people wanting to figure out how to work as little as possible, period” What else are worker rights in the 2020s? We only have one life, why not enjoy it like the men in suits?

Who's stopping you?

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by yunohn »

aeternum wrote: post #16
datavirtue wrote: post #9

Movement? It's a reddit. My favorite reddit, and the only reason I go to Reddit anymore. That is the problem and that's why the fear level of the elites (about unionization) is elevated enough to start running hatchet jobs on a forum.

I think you're drastically overestimating the fear the elites have about unionization. It's relatively easy to outsource jobs or replace with automation/robots.

This is historically provably false? Lots of things are still not automatable - hence humans are needed, and subsequently, mistreated.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by krageon »

DangitBobby wrote: post #19
aeternum wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're drastically overestimating the fear the elites have about unionization. It's relatively easy to outsource jobs or replace with automation/robots.

Then why do we keep hearing about how no one can hire anyone?

It's a narrative that is pushed so that they feel like they don't have to change anything. It's not the hirer being abusive or bad, it's the market which has no available talent.

Re: Anti-work subreddit goes private after rough Fox News interview

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Post by wiseowise »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #41
supperburg wrote: post #4

She said she would like to teach critical thinking. How unbelievably rich. The host made the excellent point that in this market, the hardest you will work is determined by how hard people in general are willing to work. The market decides how hard you are expected to work, not your boss or the Illuminati. It’s the same something-for-nothing logic-vacuum that led to communism and the massive corruption that followed.

>The market decides how hard you are expected to work That's like saying house prices in San Francisco are set by how much people are willing to pay. It's true but hides the real problem which is housing is unaffordable for many in that area.

> That's like saying house prices in San Francisco are set by how much people are willing to pay.

They literally are.

> It's true but hides the real problem which is housing is unaffordable for many in that area.

Area has finite amount of estate. The only "solution" is to create ghettos of human hives which lead to classes of problems on their own.

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