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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by f6v »

totony wrote: post #16
arpa wrote: post #12

What I don't get is how in year 2022, having landed on the moon and tricked silicon into computing for us, we as a western civilization still haven't come to terms with our own bodies, other peoples' bodies, the fact that we have a sex drive, the fact that we can and do have sex for pleasure and punish ourselves for all of these things. It's insane.

Isn't it understandable that people want separate spaces for sexual and non sexual content? I wouldn't jump the gun on allowing sexualization everywhere since it can have pretty bad effects on some people. Now whether this is sexual or not is another matter.

> Isn't it understandable that people want separate spaces for sexual and non sexual content?

I think it’s kind of like when you read “public is outraged” and in reality there’re three people writing angry tweets.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kstenerud »

jb1991 wrote: post #39
kstenerud wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So did Madonna. And for good reason. Quite often one needs to take a more direct approach because these misogynistic policies are so ingrained that people actually believe them to be natural . One needs to be in-your-face to get past that. We like to scoff at Muslims and their backwards policies about women, and yet somehow Western societies are blind to their own - so much so that we need to be told from time to tim…

Madonna explicitly wanted to be seen that way and did not attempt to suggest otherwise.

Yes, she did. And she wanted the right to do it. She wanted the right to do with her body as she pleases, and the right to be seen as she pleases.

And in doing so she fought censors, TV networks, the FBI, you name it. She fought her whole life against this kind of bullshit. And now Naomi has taken up the fight too, and is probably discovering just how unnecessarily heavy a burden it is.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by londons_explore »

ajross wrote: post #36
drawfloat wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being funny, but there are plenty of western countries that don't go around censoring this stuff. There's one massive leader in it.

Why do people insist on conflating demonitization with censorship? Google isn't saying she can't put her body on YouTube, they're saying they don't think they can sell ads on that content. If advertisers would pay for controversial content, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Seems like a dumb move on YouTubes part. Instead just only show ads from advertiser's who want to be associated with this kind of content. There aren't many of that kind of advertiser, so prices will be low. YouTubers will then soon find out that while that sort of content might get lots of views, it earns few dollars, so will produce other content.

Having a binary 'you have been demonetized' flag just seems like a way to stir discontent.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

twofornone wrote: post #20
SexyCyborg wrote: post #6

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"She pretends to be some women's rights activist" I'm a mainland Chinese citizen with a high profile on Western Social Media, I can assure you I work very hard to make sure no one confuses me as a women's rights activist. Particularly not these days. "Yes the algorithm is capricious," Not the algorithm- all human moderation. "she's really just a purveyor of some weird type of titillation" Why not just have an Only Fa…

>Why not just have an Only Fans, weekly photo video sets, and a decent copywriter and make 10x as much money? Why go through all this work? I mean, I cant help but agree that you're being a little dishonest here. Without passing judgement on whether what you're doing is right or wrong, a quick glance through the Twitter link in the OP and its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage by w…

>its quite obvious that you are well endowed and using it to your advantage

Yes, I play the cards I've been dealt.

>by wearing revealing clothing.

No, the clothing and gender expression predates YouTube and is for other reasons, is usually more conservative when I'm filming for YouTube, and is for myself. I've never worn anything for my audience.

>Can we acknowledge that some probably significant proportion of your channel views are at least initially due to your physique

Yes, I’ve come to take pride in it "came for the tits, stayed for the tech". If I happen to look the way I do for reasons other than marketing, being able to encourage technical proficiency in a demographic that was not looking to learn anything is about as good an outcome as I could hope for.

>and the way you happily show it off?

Sort of. I look the way I do for myself, and I don't object to any one else's polite enjoyment of that. As a gay woman I've gone from conflicted to entertained and accepting of it- as might any straight man who found themselves on the receiving end of the support of a large number of gay men, just for being himself and looking how he likes to look. But like our hypothetical straight creator- benefiting from something, it not the same as catering to it.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by solarmist »

deltaonefour wrote: post #31
solarmist wrote: post #28

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Except sexually. The US is significantly repressed there compared to all other aspects. Worldwide I’d put the US just on the conservative Side of the middle line regarding sexuality.

So more centrist then puritan.

We’re far left Puritan? I guess. (I visialize Puritan being the 50-75 %ile for the scale)

But if says there's more prepressed than Puritan.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

deadalus wrote: post #30

Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii, DLive, Triller Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

Yes, unfortunately it's a bit like trying to run a hotel and not being able to take Visa or Mastercard- just Discover Card. Alternatives in this case don't really help, it's marketshare that produces the income.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #38
SexyCyborg wrote: post #29

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It's a little strange, I have the top tech review YouTube channel in Mainland China, one of the top five English channel- and yeah just because they are blocked here, but still it's a big market. And with 1.5m followers still I can't get a partner manager. I know guys with 400k who started years after me that have partner managers. I just go through the same forms, escalating past boilerplate responses. No regular po…

Not that I know anything special here, but are there any PRC nationals who can have a relationship with YouTube while in the PRC? I can get foreign YouTubers establishing a relationship with YouTube via their home countries, or Chinese YouTubers abroad establishing relationships in their non-PRC resident countries, but it might be impossible to do it from inside the PRC as a Chinese since there isn’t much cooperation…

Others have, but I don't want to call them out on that and suggest preferential treatment, poor form.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by robinduckett »

oceanghost wrote: post #5

Sigh... while talented, she is constantly pushing the boundaries of taste and the YouTube TOS to gain subscribers. She pretends to be some women's rights activist when she's really just a purveyor of some weird type of titillation. Yes the algorithm is capricious, yes its arbitrary, and yes YouTube is evil. But she's clearly making a bust of herself naked. I'm sure if I put my balls on YouTube they'd be more than dem…

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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by no_butterscotch »

deadalus wrote: post #30

Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii, DLive, Triller Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

sigh Unfortunately, all of those suck.

That is the reality. Like it or not. Vimeo has its use case, the arts mostly. Odysee is something I'll check out every now and then, but even there it's just YouTube creators using it as a back-up.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by laumars »

drawfloat wrote: post #19
arpa wrote: post #12

What I don't get is how in year 2022, having landed on the moon and tricked silicon into computing for us, we as a western civilization still haven't come to terms with our own bodies, other peoples' bodies, the fact that we have a sex drive, the fact that we can and do have sex for pleasure and punish ourselves for all of these things. It's insane.

Not being funny, but there are plenty of western countries that don't go around censoring this stuff. There's one massive leader in it.

Ironically the same county that doesn’t see an issue with guns and graphic violence.

I’ll never understand how a nipple is more offensive than shooting someone.

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