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Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by chii »

dijit wrote: post #3

3.5%-5% increase in performance at more than double the wattage, for a chip that is not in consumers hands against a chip that basically hasn't changed and was released 14 months ago~ This is not the victory that the title implies. It's also a _little_ bit funny that the i9 laptop was double the price, given people usually rant loudly about how expensive Apple computers are.

the fact is, apple hardware is not _that_ expensive relative to what you get for the money.

Their supply chain is super optimized, and it's hard to beat them on price if a competitor decides to try (at the same quality that is).

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by gpm »

dijit wrote: post #3

3.5%-5% increase in performance at more than double the wattage, for a chip that is not in consumers hands against a chip that basically hasn't changed and was released 14 months ago~ This is not the victory that the title implies. It's also a _little_ bit funny that the i9 laptop was double the price, given people usually rant loudly about how expensive Apple computers are.

> was released 14 months ago

The M1 Max was only released 3 months ago...

(Your other points stand though)

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by mycall »

RandomBK wrote: post #4

> During the Cinebench R23 multi-core test, the Alder Lake laptop was consistently in the 100-watt range, [...] M1 Max’s power draw was 39.7 watts Ouch. > MSI GE76 Raider got 6 hours of offline video playback, a far cry from the MacBook Pro’s 17 hours. Double ouch. That's a huge gap, and 6 is low even in absolute terms. It's still a nice beefy chip, but still a far cry from the engineering marvel that Apple pulled of…

The MSI GE76 Raider's 3080TI is nothing Apple can match, so there are factors than other just wattage and battery life.

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by jsiaajdsdaa »

dijit wrote: post #3

3.5%-5% increase in performance at more than double the wattage, for a chip that is not in consumers hands against a chip that basically hasn't changed and was released 14 months ago~ This is not the victory that the title implies. It's also a _little_ bit funny that the i9 laptop was double the price, given people usually rant loudly about how expensive Apple computers are.

As someone who used to despise Apple-- the M1 chip has been such a pleasure to use.

Completely silent, cold, and I haven't had any issues in my personal workflow.

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by p1necone »

dijit wrote: post #3

3.5%-5% increase in performance at more than double the wattage, for a chip that is not in consumers hands against a chip that basically hasn't changed and was released 14 months ago~ This is not the victory that the title implies. It's also a _little_ bit funny that the i9 laptop was double the price, given people usually rant loudly about how expensive Apple computers are.

This article is benchmarking the CPU alone but measuring the wattage of the whole machine, including a dedicated 3080ti which is obviously not relevant to a CPU benchmark. It would make more sense to do this benchmark on a laptop with an integrated GPU.

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by sydthrowaway »

dijit wrote: post #3

3.5%-5% increase in performance at more than double the wattage, for a chip that is not in consumers hands against a chip that basically hasn't changed and was released 14 months ago~ This is not the victory that the title implies. It's also a _little_ bit funny that the i9 laptop was double the price, given people usually rant loudly about how expensive Apple computers are.

Intel is a process node behind

When you normalize for that, isn’t the power usage they equal?

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by RandomBK »

gnufied wrote: post #9
RandomBK wrote: post #4

> During the Cinebench R23 multi-core test, the Alder Lake laptop was consistently in the 100-watt range, [...] M1 Max’s power draw was 39.7 watts Ouch. > MSI GE76 Raider got 6 hours of offline video playback, a far cry from the MacBook Pro’s 17 hours. Double ouch. That's a huge gap, and 6 is low even in absolute terms. It's still a nice beefy chip, but still a far cry from the engineering marvel that Apple pulled of…

With RTX 3080 Ti though. So yeah - I don't think it can match Apple M1 efficiency but reviews of P-series and U-series Alder Lake mobile CPUs are going to be interesting and what I am looking forward to.

That's fair, I missed that. In that case it sounds like the comparison itself was flawed by comparing two devices in such different perf envelopes.

Nevertheless, it's not a great first showing.

Re: Alder Lake Core i9 processor is faster than the M1 Max

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Post by fartcannon »

chii wrote: post #11
dijit wrote: post #3

3.5%-5% increase in performance at more than double the wattage, for a chip that is not in consumers hands against a chip that basically hasn't changed and was released 14 months ago~ This is not the victory that the title implies. It's also a _little_ bit funny that the i9 laptop was double the price, given people usually rant loudly about how expensive Apple computers are.

the fact is, apple hardware is not _that_ expensive relative to what you get for the money. Their supply chain is super optimized, and it's hard to beat them on price if a competitor decides to try (at the same quality that is).

Yeah but it's locked down, unupgradable future e-waste.
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