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Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

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Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

#11
This Twitter thread is just a pain to read.

Sure, Apple is charging a lot for their platform. It raises anti-trust issues as a duopoly.

The irony here is that the Fanhouse business model itself is exactly what Apple is doing on the App Store, the only difference is that they’re not a monopoly/duopoly power. By that I mean: why would anyone give Fanhouse a 10% cut when credit card transactions only cost 2-3%? Oh, right, so you can get on the platform…sound familiar?

This thread has a taste of hyperbole. It’s overly dramatic.

OnlyFans operates without an iOS app for this very reason. Fanhouse says “fuck Apple” but then does business with them anyway by implementing the surcharge.

If I were an investor I’d probably be having a word with the CEO about publicly hurling insults toward the “store” that’s selling my product.

Also, she’s misrepresenting the Netflix situation. Netflix has to abide by the same rules but she’s saying they get special deals. No, their app says “you can’t sign up for Netflix in the app” for this very reason. Spotify has a free tier and doesn’t handle subscriptions through iOS. Google goes the Fanhouse route and adds a surcharge to iOS-based subscriptions. Prime Video is browse-only last I checked.

I have a hard time sympathizing for a business owner who got $30M+ in a funding round. She can talk about her past life of food stamps all day, but she’s part of the ownership class, just not on Apple’s level of ownership. It feels a little insulting for the situation to be framed as a struggle of the working class.

That feels a lot like marketing: stirring up controversy so that people know who Fanhouse is. It’s a lot cheaper than running ads, isn’t it?

Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

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post #4

More reason not to build your house on someone else's land.

I'd love to be able to reach iPhone owners outside of the App Store, but Apple is preventing that.

Just how exactly are you or anyone else prevented to run your business in mobile browser.

Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

#14
The only other submission linking to that Twitter profile is about the very same thing but 7 months ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/jasmineri...

Did they release a new version or something that they need the eyeballs? One can’t help but wonder…

Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

#15

The only other submission linking to that Twitter profile is about the very same thing but 7 months ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=twitter.com/jasmineri... Did they release a new version or something that they need the eyeballs? One can’t help but wonder…

Today was the deadline Apple gave them at the time, before which they had to comply.

Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to be able to reach iPhone owners outside of the App Store, but Apple is preventing that.

Just how exactly are you or anyone else prevented to run your business in mobile browser.

My app is a keyboard for iPhone and Apple Watch, so a web version is out of the question.

And because of Apple, web apps also have severe shortcomings when compared to native apps – such as lack of notification support.

Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

#18
post #2

Well… yes. This is a well-established factor of being in the App Store which not even other massive corporations are exempt from, and surely she knew about it before submitting her app. Did she think an exception would be made for her for some reason?

Both the legal & ethical aspects of Apple’s rules are currently being questioned. Also: If a platform developer doesn’t charge their creators a commission, Apple doesn’t get a cut either – great. But should the developer decide to keep even 1% to run their own business, Apple asks for almost a third of the entire transaction – how does that make any sense?

The legal aspect seem to revolve entirely around their restrictions on other payment services, not the platform commission.

Re: Apple's kicking us off the App Store unless we give them 30% of all transactions

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post #11

This Twitter thread is just a pain to read. Sure, Apple is charging a lot for their platform. It raises anti-trust issues as a duopoly. The irony here is that the Fanhouse business model itself is exactly what Apple is doing on the App Store, the only difference is that they’re not a monopoly/duopoly power. By that I mean: why would anyone give Fanhouse a 10% cut when credit card transactions only cost 2-3%? Oh, righ…

The difference here is that Fanhouse has to compete with other similar apps, thus the current 10% is driven by the market, not artificial restrictions.

Also, Netflix got some really special treatment: https://9to5mac.com/2021/05/05/netflix-apple-in-app-purchase...

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