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A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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Important to note that the quoted $15 doesn't include shipping, assembly, tax or any other costs. For the same actual cost I'd go on EBay/Craigslist/FB Marketplace and buy an unlimited number of old computers with 1000x the specs of this one that are going to be otherwise placed into a landfill.

And then carry those old computers around in your pocket?

Sure. Buy a bunch of old Android phones for even less and root them.

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? In case that's a serious question: what website has an orange theme, and an aggressively enforced rule against editorialising submission titles?

well yeah, but why would they want to block out the "orange website"?

I don't think "screw with" means "block" in this case. But there is one moderately famous blog that does block HN: https://www.jwz.org/

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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> I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? I wonder what would be achievable, around the $15 mark WITHOUT needing a minimum order of 1000? (Presuming access to a 3d printer and a reasonably cheap PCB fab company)

What was the title previously? I'm not sure I understand the significance of the current title.

Some people really hate Hacker News for no intelligent reasons that I can tell.

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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> I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? I wonder what would be achievable, around the $15 mark WITHOUT needing a minimum order of 1000? (Presuming access to a 3d printer and a reasonably cheap PCB fab company)

What was the title previously? I'm not sure I understand the significance of the current title.

The new title is "I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website"

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? In case that's a serious question: what website has an orange theme, and an aggressively enforced rule against editorialising submission titles?

well yeah, but why would they want to block out the "orange website"?

They're not blocking it out, they are protesting the weird, variable, "original title" policy. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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> I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? I wonder what would be achievable, around the $15 mark WITHOUT needing a minimum order of 1000? (Presuming access to a 3d printer and a reasonably cheap PCB fab company)

> Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? In case that's a serious question: what website has an orange theme, and an aggressively enforced rule against editorialising submission titles?

Ever since I've found that I can change the color of the top bar in my profile, the site has been every color but orange to me. :D

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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We had something like this in 2001. It was called the Agenda vr3 and it ran a full X session with the FLTK in 16meg of RAM. However, the history of PDA's that run linux is mostly lost since LinuxDevices.com doesn't really exist anymore. I owned several of these including Agenda VR3, Vtech Helio, Zaurus, etc. It was quite a nice system even without wireless unless you count IrDA. It used FTP over RS-232 for installing software using a primitive packaging system. The little linux distros for these devices didn't really take off until the Zaurus SL-5500 took off by going on sale for $220 on the home shopping network in 2003, and someone developed the packing system called ipk which was a little more intelligent and reminiscent of Slackware's packing system.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/marrying-linux-and-the-...

Agenda VR3 specs : Processor: 66 MHz 32 bit NEC VR4181 MIPS; Memory: 8 MB of RAM plus 16 MB of Flash Memory

NOTE: This could play mp3's while running an FTP server.

https://web.archive.org/web/20030219081647/http://www.linuxd...

Zaurus packages : https://www.zaurus.org.uk/download/cacko/feed/

Zaurus specs : Intel SA-1110 StrongARM processor running at 206 MHz, has 64 MB of RAM and 16MB Flash

NOTE: This could play MP3's, MP4 at 320x240, run an SSH server, etc.

I'm surprised there aren't more systems out there, but a lot of these linux devices in the 2000's (the aught years) were just other systems cannibalized for linux like the iPaq line. Eventually some people put this together in to something called Familiar Linux and trying to standardize the whole thing. handhelds.org doesn't exist anymore, though.

https://www.drdobbs.com/packing-linux-on-ipaq/199200756

The whole openembedded (OE) system showed promise and came from the guy who made Gentoo, but it got mostly abandoned and merged in to other projects (YOCTO) when he went to work for Microsoft.

https://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Main_Page https://docs.yoctoproject.org/

I kind of gave up on this all when I started developing for iPhone OS 3. It just worked with regards to wireless, and I realized I was more interested in the application layer anyway. Before 2020, you could get an iPhone 5s for about $20 on ebay, so it really had all I wanted including GPS.

There was someone who put together a site called http://pocketworkstation.org/ which isn't in the internet archive (archive.org) that had a whole LaTeX system working in Window Maker on the various Zaurus models. It was a scaled down desktop with 7 bit fonts, but it could be VNC into and used. Fun times.

EDIT: formatting and specs for low end devices

Re: A Minimum Viable Computer, or Linux for $15

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> I’m changing the title of this page just to screw with mods on the orange website Loving it! What orange website could they be talking about? I wonder what would be achievable, around the $15 mark WITHOUT needing a minimum order of 1000? (Presuming access to a 3d printer and a reasonably cheap PCB fab company)

> What orange website could they be talking about?

I wouldn't know, my topcolor is B5DB5D.

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