Nintendo Switch game cartridges taste offensively bad (2017)

I simply grew up to like the bitterness. You put your t-shirt on, there is bitterness in your mouth. You enter the BMW 5-series with leather seats, sit down and just enjoy the bitterness. This thing is really really spreading easily in powdered form. That was fun childhood/teenager times :) Actually, really inspiring, I've met a lot of interesting people - from random sales people, random purchasers, seen extremely interesting usecases for the Denatonium (like checking whether the cooking process is actually kosher, if it's not the food would be bitter, amongst more funny stories), met CEOs of petrol companies, met whole bunch of liquor producers... Honestly lucky me to be born to a producer of Denatonium Benzoate.

As discussed elsewhere in this thread, all interventions carry some risk of bad unintended things happening. You can get killed in car accident driving to court, but we don't eliminate court.

> What is the difference between "disincentive" and "punishment" here?

Traditionally, punishment is seen as having up to three components: deterrence, retribution, and/or incapacitation.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/reasons-...

I'm using "disincentive" here to emphasize that (1) only deterrence is sought, (2) the deterrent is created before the deterred action rather than implemented later, (3) the deterrent is "bound up" with the deterred action in a particularly tight way. There is more to say about (3), but it would take a while to unpack, and I think (1) and (2) are sufficient for this discussion.

(I'm happy to use better or more standard terminology if it exists.)

> would you be OK with replacing the physical barriers with, say, spikes that would tear up a car's tires and instantly cause an accident, should the car try to cross the line?

Only insofar as the effectiveness went up so much that the total harm caused was less.

The spikes sound scary and bring a grisly accident to mind, and intuitively we know that in the real world drivers would sometimes hit them by accident. So let me try an alternative hypothetical that may help illustrate my position better.

Suppose we are trying to build a humane prison and we need to find a way to keep people inside. First note that, traditionally, a fence with razor wire on top is used as a disincentive even though we all agree it would be terrible to punish escapees by cutting their hands with a razor. And say there is some rate of prisoners escaping (1 per decade, or whatever) with the fence. Now, imagine we could replace the fence with an extremely deep pit around the prison that would be fatal to fall into. (For the sake of the thought experiment, we assume counterfactually that the pit is as cheap as a fence and introduced no other issues.) Suppose the pit has a railing around it so no one falls in accidentally, and also that it is much more effective at preventing escape because essentially no one bothers to try.

Death by falling is even more unreasonable as a punishment for trying to escape, yet the situation seems better than the razor wire. The reason is that the pit is a very effective disincentive (a deterrent created prior rather than after the fact) and the total harm (number of escapees plus injury to attempted escapees) is much less.

>When MacOS X was announced, Steve Jobs said “We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them.” When was the last time you licked the screen of an Apple product?

https://www.zdnet.com/article/lickable-buttons/

>“We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them.” Steve Jobs on Mac OS X’s Aqua user interface, January 2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzfhAcz0OKw

>Steve Jobs Introduces Aqua (UI Design Language): Aqua is the graphical user interface, design language and visual theme of Apple's macOS operating system. It was originally based on the theme of water, with droplet-like components and a liberal use of reflection effects and translucency. Its goal is to "incorporate color, depth, translucence, and complex textures into a visually appealing interface" in macOS applications. At its introduction, Steve Jobs noted that "one of the design goals was when you saw it you wanted to lick it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_(user_interface)

>Design elements: Gray, white and blue are the three principal colors which define the Aqua style. Window toolbars, window backgrounds, buttons, menus and other interface elements are all found in either of these colors. For instance, toolbars and sidebars are often grey or metal-colored, window backgrounds and popup menus are white and buttons (in older systems also scrollbar handles) are accented with a bright blue. In versions of OS X prior to OS X Yosemite, most controls have a "glass" or "gel" effect applied to them. David Pogue described this effect as "lickable globs of Crest Berrylicious Toothpaste Gel".

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2000...

>Everyone expected him to unveil a new computer or two. Instead, Jobs showed off a flashy, completely redesigned Macintosh operating system called Mac OS X [ten], which, when it's delivered this summer, will put a glossy new face--graphical user interface, that is--on the Mac. "We made the buttons on the screen look so good you'll want to lick them," he says. (Some of the design elements he approved help illustrate these pages.)