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Regulations are written in blood, then the blood darkens and people forget why we have regulations.
Regulations should be transparent, with link to original cases and deduction process documented. We are not telepaths.
Two weeks later David Bennett is alive, his pig’s heart beating soundly
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I understand why pigs are “impure” (parasites in the meat), but why dogs?
In Judaism at least, and I'd assume the same translates to Islam, "impurity" is understood to mean "ritually impure". It doesn't necessarily mean there's a specific scientific reason to avoid the meat, just that God asked them not to partake.
It is not the same as "being unhygienic", though it overlaps to some degree. (Faeces etc.)
An interesting example from Judaism is "Tzaraath", which means skin disease, but it could also afflict houses. Today we do not know for sure what it even meant. Mold infestation? Maybe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzaraath#Affliction_of_housing
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#413Would have been interesting to hear what the feeling was like 2 weeks later (ie lethargic? walking alright? breathing well?) TFA only says he's alive "with his new heart beating soundly", which could mean a lot of things.
I think two weeks after heart surgery is never fun... A few days ago I noted that recovering from having your sternum broken open takes 6-8 weeks to be able to resume daily basic activities under the best circumstances.
Can also confirm. I received CPR which cracked some ribs. I had to sleep in a chair for the first 5 weeks because lying down flat and getting back up again was so painful. Sneezing and coughing were excruciating until I found the trick of 'hugging' oneself just before to reduce chest movement.
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I don’t sense hostility outside the typical vocal minority. Having straddled the FDA-regulated world and the libertarian-leaning internet cultures through the aughts and teens, my experience is that the internet libertarians are simply ignorant of how the FDA actually serves us. Pretty typically libertarian—freedom as long as nothing gets more dangerous. Kind of like rebellious children.
HN had a huge sophomoric Randian streak years ago.. It seems to be maturing as I assume the users age.
One of the things I always liked about HN (even years ago HN) is that it seemed to feature a diversity of age ranges. Which brings some nice perspective.
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#415Is this compassionate use or experimentation on a dying patient for the future benefit of the rest of us? I’m fine with the latter, if consensual. But only if we call it what it is.
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#416I just want to say huge respect for Dr Mohammad who despite his faith decided to do what is right. It might not be well known but most muslims are raised with strong beliefs, even in educated countries (eg 85% in Pakistan support sharia). God bless Dr mohammad
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I'm vegetarian and have no issue with using animals for medical purposes like this. It's one thing to kill for pleasure as in fur, cosmetics and food, but quite another to kill an animal to save a human life. I am pretty sure even most vegans would be happy to accept an animal death to save their own life, even a pet. Similarly, I guess, I was vegan but I had to stop that diet as it caused severe health problems for…
Once you kill the pig for its heart and kidneys, you might as well eat it. Better than letting the nutritional value of the meat go to waste. That wouldn't be a lot of pigs, true, and a pork chop of that origin would be pretty expensive.
I mean the value of various parts like organ meat varies by what it's used for, but eventually everything is used up. A lot of offal ends up in animal feed, for example. And their hooves end up in keratine supplements for the gymbros.
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#418Discussed here fifteen days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29882912 Not a huge update but an interesting discussion of FDA approval; can the FDA actually stop or sanction experimental procedures like this?
Yes, the FDA will insert itself to regulate medicine wherever it can. For example, the FDA has been pushing to regulate diagnostic tests as medical devices. It’s funny how Americans surrender medical autonomy to the government but draw a strict line in the sand in other issues
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That's what they've done here, this are GMO pigs designed to be more compatible with human biology. > The heart transplanted into Mr. Bennett came from a genetically altered pig provided by Revivicor, a regenerative medicine company based in Blacksburg, Va. > The pig had 10 genetic modifications. Four genes were knocked out, or inactivated, including one that encodes a molecule that causes an aggressive human rejecti…
I now wonder if this guy will have to pay licensing costs for the copyright on the genes the rest of his (admittedly freshly prolonged) life...
I mean if you buy a book that's it. You don't get a license to redistribute, but you get an unlimited license to read and use the book for whatever. That's how copyright law works.