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Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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Re: Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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Unscientific mask and vaccine mandates should be dropped regardless of the opinion of someone on Pfizer's board.

It’s notable because the board member will lose financially with this statement.

It’s in their interest to keep quiet or push more vaccine mandates; especially as they have the “best” one as of now.

Re: Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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post #3

Unscientific mask and vaccine mandates should be dropped regardless of the opinion of someone on Pfizer's board.

It’s notable because the board member will lose financially with this statement. It’s in their interest to keep quiet or push more vaccine mandates; especially as they have the “best” one as of now.

I think OP is right.. since you can also make the claim the member is promoting unhealthy habits to sell a cure.

Re: Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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Why is this comment being downvoted? What part isn't true?

This statement seems very specific to the US cultural context:

“The only way to get compliance from people and get accommodation [is] if we demonstrate the ability to withdraw these [mandates] in the same manner in which we put them in,” Gottlieb added.

In Canada, there have been experiments with slowly increasing the number of areas where you are required to have a vaccine in order to enter. They put it on Beer/Liquor stores recently and it saw a huge jump in the number of vaccine appoints.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/first-dose-vaccinations-quadrupl...

They are putting the requirement on big box stores (e.g. Home Depot/Lowes/Walmart, excluding the pharmacy areas) now and probably will see another jump.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1995579971859

That said, it does appear that this current wave is mostly over, but deaths are primarily among the unvaccinated, so it is probably still a good idea to aim for near full vaccination:

https://twitter.com/OurWorldInData/status/148607668061993779...

Covid vaccines should be treated similarly to other public health vaccines, like Polio. Although we really need more effective Gen2 vaccines that do not require constant boosters and they need to outright prevent infection rather than just reducing the death rate. These Gen1 vaccines and their semi-effectiveness have been incredibly confusing to the general public.

Re: Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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Scott Gottlieb is also a former FDA commissioner and an MD, not just a Pfizer board member.

He’s also been a prolific public commenter during the pandemic and one of the few who has been able to navigate the politics of explaining the situation accurately but still being accepted by many conservatives.

In terms of the headline, being a Pfizer board member is a lot less important than knowing the comment is from Scott Gottlieb.

Re: Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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I think this is kind of a big "duh" statement. Mandates were issued in the face or surging numbers and we now have waning numbers. I'm very hesitant to declare victory too soon but the day is seemingly coming soon. Of course, we'll have to reverse course yet again if there's a new wave which very well might happen. The next stage should shipping billions of doses to the poor nations that haven't gotten any yet.

Re: Pfizer board member suggests end to mask, vaccine mandates

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post #3

Unscientific mask and vaccine mandates should be dropped regardless of the opinion of someone on Pfizer's board.

It’s notable because the board member will lose financially with this statement. It’s in their interest to keep quiet or push more vaccine mandates; especially as they have the “best” one as of now.

That's not true. Every treatment of Paxlovid the company will sell is going to make a lot more profit that vaccines.
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