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Two weeks later David Bennett is alive, his pig’s heart beating soundly

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Re: Two weeks later David Bennett is alive, his pig’s heart beating soundly

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Absolutely - why wouldn't you? Serious question.

If you were the cat, I bet you'd feel differently. That's as serious of an answer as I can give. It's the same reason I never neutered my cats, since it felt like a mutilation.

My mom thought that way until we ended up with 5 more cats. The prospect of 20 more cats didn't quite appeal to her either.

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Maybe we could grow happy, stress free and well fed human beings. Then we wouldn't need so many transplants in the first place.

But happy, stress free and well fed pigs are probably cheaper.

Or they could take a page from the semiconductor industry and replace human hearts with 128 genetically modified mouse hearts in an array.

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This is great news! I am very hopeful there is no reject in a year … hopeful for him and his family

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I assumed “victim” referred to the pig, but I believe this is in reference to the fact that the heart recipient stabbed someone, leading to their death: https://nypost.com/2022/01/13/historic-pig-heart-recipient-w...

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Yes, the FDA will insert itself to regulate medicine wherever it can. For example, the FDA has been pushing to regulate diagnostic tests as medical devices. It’s funny how Americans surrender medical autonomy to the government but draw a strict line in the sand in other issues

If there was indeed a way to pull back the scope and power granted to the government I think a lot of us Americans would love to hear about it. The way it is, it seems like the US government is an unstoppable machine that will grow until it destroys itself.

I don’t think the American governments biggest problem is it’s scope and power: I think it’s biggest problem is inefficiency due to corruption (regulatory capture, etc). It seems to me that the biggest obstacle to fixing this is that many Americans see this as an inevitable character of government rather than something specific to their system, and thus spend their time trying to reduce government (ironically making it even less effective by hobbling it with silly restrictions) rather than fixing it into a well functioning system.

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And the next step would be to eat the humans who've had an animal transplant, sounds all good and logical to me.

That is such a ridiculous comment, I had a mighty chuckle.

If you replace a human organ by organ with one from a pig, is he still the original human? Ship of piggus.

Re: Two weeks later David Bennett is alive, his pig’s heart beating soundly

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From the article: "[pigs] they can be genetically manipulated to produce organs less likely to be rejected on transplantation." Is this true? How would these manipulations be carried out?

Doctor: "Now, most hearts couldn't withstand this voltage ... but I'm fairly certain your heart..."

Pig: "What was noise?"

Doctor: "The sound of progress, my friend."

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It would be better if you got to keep the meat rather than letting it go to waste. Then you could indulge in autophagy by proxy.

If we're genetically modifying the pigs to be more like humans, I wonder if there would be health risks with eating the meat - specifically from prions. Similar to those that come from eating humans. Admittedly probably negligible until we modify them a heck of a lot more than we are right now (if they do theoretically exist).

Apparently they have recently granted permission for these (type of) pigs to be sold for meat so those who suffer with alpha-gal syndrome (and are thus allergic to regular meat) can eat it. So I’m guessing by not.

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The hostility towards FDA on HN is incredible. I wouldn't trust some VC funded startup bros with anything related to medicine at all without having passed every single regulatory board tangentially related to whatever they are doing, even more so after Theranos.

I don’t sense hostility outside the typical vocal minority. Having straddled the FDA-regulated world and the libertarian-leaning internet cultures through the aughts and teens, my experience is that the internet libertarians are simply ignorant of how the FDA actually serves us. Pretty typically libertarian—freedom as long as nothing gets more dangerous. Kind of like rebellious children.

> Pretty typically libertarian—freedom as long as nothing gets more dangerous. Kind of like rebellious children.

Or, as this guy[1] put it, like house cats. “convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don’t appreciate or understand.”

As a former Libertarian who luckily grew out of that phase, I love this analogy.

1: https://twitter.com/jspauldingphoto/status/14615069981183303...

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Side-comment that doesn't apply in this case, but worth mentioning: "regardless of who they are" seems like a shitty blanket principle to have. For example, hospitals are overstuffed with COVID patients means regular patients die as a result. In many cases, "The overwhelming majority of the patients had COVID-19, and 98% of those needing acute critical care were unvaccinated." This means people who choose to not take…

Why are so many vocal advocates for the covid vaccine such demons? Is the rhetoric surrounding the covid vaccine so toxic that it turns otherwise normal people into people who are so hate filled, or are such hate filled people simply predisposed to being influenced by such rhetoric?

It's your standard us vs them scenario. Humans love us vs them scenarios, we're a tribal bunch

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If we're genetically modifying the pigs to be more like humans, I wonder if there would be health risks with eating the meat - specifically from prions. Similar to those that come from eating humans. Admittedly probably negligible until we modify them a heck of a lot more than we are right now (if they do theoretically exist).

Apparently they have recently granted permission for these (type of) pigs to be sold for meat so those who suffer with alpha-gal syndrome (and are thus allergic to regular meat) can eat it. So I’m guessing by not.

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