[0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/089158...
New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
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Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm 40 years old who is a muslim. I spent half of my life living in a muslim/arab country and the other hald in the west. Here is what I've seen: 1- Of all the people I know where I grew up in the arab country, probably only 2-3 drunk. This does correlate with the data [1]. But those 2-3 people did drink heavily. Could you back your personal experience with some stats? 2- Alcohol in the arab world has a different mea…
There were a lot of muslim students where I went to college. There was an ongoing joke that went something like: "Why do you always invite at least two muslims to your apartment? Because if you only invite one, they'll drink all your beer."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7zotqa/how_do_you_ke...
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#83Everyone always goes to wine and spirits here... But this should ha e implications for mouthwash too
Does the alcohol from mouthwash enter the blood stream in meaningful quantities?
I know I've heard the phrases "mouth cancer" and "skin cancer". The former probably in connection with chewing tobacco.
I genuinely don't know the answer to whether mouthwash could be harmful, assuming one doesn't swallow. But I've thought of the question before.
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#84Life (aging) is a direct cause of cancer. And we can't change that unless we have some sort of nanobots constantly repairing DNA damage in every single cell of our body.
Deep thoughts here. Life (aging) is a direct cause of death. And we can’t change that. Might as well die.
But if people didn't age, then there would still be a base rate of mortality from illness and accidents, and so for any arbitrary probability (99.9%, etc) there would be a maximum age that one could reasonably expect to live to.
For instance, if the only thing people ever died of was car accidents, at a rate of 20 per 100,000 people per year, then it would still be very unlikely for anyone to live more than 20,000 years. That's a long time, but it's not millions or billions of years, much less eternity.
Furthermore, if nothing but accidents killed people we might become extremely conservative and do practically nothing for thousands of years. Do I want to use the stairs and risk 99% of my potential lifespan?
So maybe one could say that biology and even physics don't ensure death, probability does.
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#85It is all about the dose! 50 ml of alcohol a day have benefits and I know a lot of 90+ people who drink moderately on a daily basis. According to Ray Peat, it dissolve lipofuscin. There are studies [0]. The issue is not alcohol, but the lack of self-control! [0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/089158...
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
There were a lot of muslim students where I went to college. There was an ongoing joke that went something like: "Why do you always invite at least two muslims to your apartment? Because if you only invite one, they'll drink all your beer."
I have the impression the original joke was about Baptists. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7zotqa/how_do_you_ke...
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#87This is why popular medical press should not be read at all, because it announces another cure of cancer or of aids every day, yet those are just preliminary in-silico researches (simulation of chemical reaction), 90% of which fail at in-vitro stage, another 9% at in-vivo.
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#88It is all about the dose! 50 ml of alcohol a day have benefits and I know a lot of 90+ people who drink moderately on a daily basis. According to Ray Peat, it dissolve lipofuscin. There are studies [0]. The issue is not alcohol, but the lack of self-control! [0]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/089158...
in rats (in vitro) [1989]
Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#89Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really, because they are more likely to lie about how much alcohol and or drugs they take. I have lived in two Muslim countries now and I don't know any Muslims who don't drink in private. I doubt they'd admit to it on a survey though.
I'm 40 years old who is a muslim. I spent half of my life living in a muslim/arab country and the other hald in the west. Here is what I've seen: 1- Of all the people I know where I grew up in the arab country, probably only 2-3 drunk. This does correlate with the data [1]. But those 2-3 people did drink heavily. Could you back your personal experience with some stats? 2- Alcohol in the arab world has a different mea…
Of course being a Muslim and actually practicing Islam are two different things.