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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by dragonwriter »

sgustard wrote: post #73
culi wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the time I heard from someone much older than me that Democrats and Republicans switched from being red or blue almost every year until 2000 when the election results were so uncertain that people got used to seeing red=Republican and blue=Democrat for weeks and the color scheme just ended up becoming permanent. As a (younger) politics junkie I was shocked even though it makes total sense and I've alway…

Very true, "red" and "blue" had no political meaning in my childhood. Another source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-republicans-were...

> Very true, “red” and “blue” had no political meaning in my childhood

“Red” had a very long established political meaning before the new one for “Republican” was adopted, visible in phrases like “better dead than Red”.

“Blue” didn’t, though.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by watwut »

fouc wrote: post #23
nlowell wrote: post #21

I'm red-green colorblind, and for this reason was never allowed in accounting at work. I kid, but it sure does surprise me that so much of the world uses red/green to visualize! Passive-aggressive fun fact: roughly 8% of men have some colorblindness.

8% seems shockingly high, if that's true then it's also shocking how little effort seems to be made to compensate for colorblindness. Why aren't Emojis presented differently depending on type of colorblindness for example?

It is less, because that stat is for whites. Colorblindness is hereditary and more rare among blacks. Even among whites, some regions of the world have a lot of it (Hungaria), others less.

The other reason is that most of it is subtle colorblindness. Those people don't see black and white, they can distinguish primary colors perfectly fine. They have trouble with waaaay more subtle differences between colors - when you add a bit of green to rgb.

Yet other observation is that with exception of electricity where color codes are confusing ever for people who complete vision, the colors used in traffic, in graphs in books, in toys for boys actually tend not to use subtle shades.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by gumby »

sleepychu wrote: post #90
gumby wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Left and right themselves just refer to where groups sat in the revolutionary National Assembly. At this point the terms, like “conservative”, have become labels without meaning in US politics.

Did that propagate to other countries afterwards then? For example left and right in the UK have the same meaning as I understand them to have in the US although of course in the US all parties are right of what the UK would call centre.

Yes, although as far as I know the terms weren’t popular until communism started to emerge in late 19 th century Europe

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by bsimpson »

otras wrote: post #17

For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!

"I hope 'plunging' means 'up,' and '75' means '200'"

- Homer Simpson on stocks

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by bradknowles »

dragonwriter wrote: post #91
sgustard wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very true, "red" and "blue" had no political meaning in my childhood. Another source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/when-republicans-were...

> Very true, “red” and “blue” had no political meaning in my childhood “Red” had a very long established political meaning before the new one for “Republican” was adopted, visible in phrases like “better dead than Red”. “Blue” didn’t, though.

You never heard of a “blue dog democrat”?

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by Cyberdog »

kingcharles wrote: post #64
mudlus wrote: post #49

It starts with knowing why it was originally pronounced "eh-mohjee", and not "ee-mojee". The better question, then, if you really want to learn about culture, is why red is a good color in Japanese culture. I'll just tell you: Red is related to sun symbolizm in Shinto, it scares away evil spirits of 'the dark'. And the Japanese emporer (before McArthur said otherwise) was a sun god (descended from Amaterasu). Some Ja…

I had to look this up, as I (wrongly) thought the etymology was derived from the English "emoticon", but it's not, it is a purely Japanese word. https://www.sciencefriday.com/articles/the-origin-of-the-wor... So, yes, you are absolutely right, technically I have been mispronouncing it for almost two decades. I can't stop now though, because everyone else outside Japan is also doing the same.

Just wait until you learn about the correct pronunciation of "karate!" :D

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by johannes1234321 »

sleepychu wrote: post #90
gumby wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Left and right themselves just refer to where groups sat in the revolutionary National Assembly. At this point the terms, like “conservative”, have become labels without meaning in US politics.

Did that propagate to other countries afterwards then? For example left and right in the UK have the same meaning as I understand them to have in the US although of course in the US all parties are right of what the UK would call centre.

Looking at parliament's the left-right thing the French created spread.

Not to the UK however. In the British Parliament seating is based on governing party (right side of the Speaker (Commons) or right side of the Throne (House of Lords) and the opposition on the other side)

However for example in Germany there was a relatively big debate earlier in this legislative period, when the liberal party (FDP) wanted to move to the center, switching seats with the conservatives (CDU/CSU) to move away from the far right party (AfD) The "traditional" left-right spectrum was a key argument in the debate.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by hnbad »

bradknowles wrote: post #96
dragonwriter wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Very true, “red” and “blue” had no political meaning in my childhood “Red” had a very long established political meaning before the new one for “Republican” was adopted, visible in phrases like “better dead than Red”. “Blue” didn’t, though.

You never heard of a “blue dog democrat”?

I'm not sure if you're joking but the only reference I can find is the "Blue Dog Coalition" which takes its name from "being choked blue" and the term "yellow dog Democrat", which in turn seems to refer to what now goes by "vote blue no matter who" in the sense of "they would vote for a yellow dog as long as it is Democrat", which in turn uses "yellow dog" to refer to "low value" American dogs with no genetic link to any established European dog breed.

Whew, what a ride for a non-American to figure out what any of these idioms are supposed to mean.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Post by gurkendoktor »

nopenopenopeno wrote: post #78
culi wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Liberal in most of the rest of the world usually means something similar to "neoliberal" which is usually thought of as a moderate or conservative ideology. When you say liberal, do you mean it in the way it's used in the US (a stand-in for "leftist") or the way it's used in the rest of the world?

In America, “conservative” and “liberal” both mean neoliberal.

This is a recent development. When gay marriage was less popular among voters a couple decades ago, "conservative" meant "neoconservatism", which was exactly the same as neoliberalism, but without the LGBT+.

(I hope that I have now successfully offended every political ideology that claims to have centuries of philosophical backing behind it.)

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