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Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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Not sure what other people do, but I always publish at a journal then put my manuscript on arxiv, or whatever field equivalent, and then on my personal website. Then I submit it to scihub. Best we can do these days

First -- Thanks! But second, how do you have the right to that ? Doesn't the institution you work for or the paper's co-authors restrict distribution so to maximize the royalties and recoup research costs ?

Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The catch is it’s $11000

I mean, I'm coming at this from the perspective of a freelance journalist where sometimes the best rate I can get for a story that took three months to research is $250. Not talking just interviews and finding expert sourcing, but deeply involved work with code, data analysis, data cleanup, etc etc etc, often that nobody else is doing. So, that's pretty fucking good in my book, man.

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Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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The article says "Our aim is to ensure that lack of funds is never a barrier to publishing with us." As in they will provide funding if someone can't afford it.

Isn't this a really good thing? What is the average budget for an research project that ends up with an article published in this journal?

Clinical trials are in the millions, and research grants are often 6 figures.

I know people see this as rent seeking, but journals DO provide a service which costs money. The issue is before they prevented freedom of information. With this model, they are not.

Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The catch is it’s $11000

I mean, I'm coming at this from the perspective of a freelance journalist where sometimes the best rate I can get for a story that took three months to research is $250. Not talking just interviews and finding expert sourcing, but deeply involved work with code, data analysis, data cleanup, etc etc etc, often that nobody else is doing. So, that's pretty fucking good in my book, man.

You seem to have misunderstood. The authors don't get paid anything for publishing. Nature typically puts papers behind a paywall. Nature will make a paper available for free if the authors pay Nature ~11k.

Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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Not sure what other people do, but I always publish at a journal then put my manuscript on arxiv, or whatever field equivalent, and then on my personal website. Then I submit it to scihub. Best we can do these days

First -- Thanks! But second, how do you have the right to that ? Doesn't the institution you work for or the paper's co-authors restrict distribution so to maximize the royalties and recoup research costs ?

Authors and institutions don't get any royalties at all - only the journal profits.

Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The catch is it’s $11000

I mean, I'm coming at this from the perspective of a freelance journalist where sometimes the best rate I can get for a story that took three months to research is $250. Not talking just interviews and finding expert sourcing, but deeply involved work with code, data analysis, data cleanup, etc etc etc, often that nobody else is doing. So, that's pretty fucking good in my book, man.

It sounds like you have this backwards. Imagine getting paid $250 for an article and then having to pay $11k out of your own pocket so anyone can actually read it.

Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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Not sure what other people do, but I always publish at a journal then put my manuscript on arxiv, or whatever field equivalent, and then on my personal website. Then I submit it to scihub. Best we can do these days

First -- Thanks! But second, how do you have the right to that ? Doesn't the institution you work for or the paper's co-authors restrict distribution so to maximize the royalties and recoup research costs ?

Research institutions don’t get royalties from papers. If they license or commercialize discoveries, they will get royalties. Papers are not a source of income for them and are typically a cost center as they pay for subscriptions to the journals full of papers written by scientists they employ.

Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article

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What in the world? I have a hard time seeing this as anything but a racket, or possibly a legal maneuver to increase standing to sue Sci-Hub or something ("Look, we've offered free access already!") How much did Nature Neuroscience pay to produce these articles? Do they pay their editors? Their reviewers? The authors? Do they pay their typesetters? Do they offer their print journal for free? Do they have expensive co…

Price has more to do with willingness to pay than with cost. Nature is a prestigious intuition so people are willing to pay to get published there. It also sets a barrier to get a paper reviewed. I hear you that it shouldn't be this way but they are a profit seeking entity so they are behaving like one.
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