Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
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Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#2Not sure what other people do, but I always publish at a journal then put my manuscript on arxiv, or whatever field equivalent, and then on my personal website.
Then I submit it to scihub.
Best we can do these days
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#3I love Nature journals, but my goodness this is folly.
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#4Is there a catch here? That sounds incredible.
(edit: I got it backwards. That's horrible.)
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#5Who is the target audience here? And who exactly is paying for this?
Researchers who care about open access can and do already upload their work to arxiv and/ or scihub in addition to publishing their work in formal venues.
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#6Is there a catch here? That sounds incredible. (edit: I got it backwards. That's horrible.)
The catch is it’s $11000
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#7https://blog.joss.theoj.org/2019/06/cost-models-for-running-...
"The Journal of Open Source Software (JOSS) is a free, open-access online journal, with no article processing charge (APC). We are committed to operating as a free service to our community, and we do so thanks to the volunteer labor of editors and reviewers, and by taking advantage of existing infrastructure. In this post, we examine the true costs of running a journal such as JOSS, and make the case that even when considering all services we don’t currently pay for, the true cost per paper would not exceed $100. Current APCs at many “gold” open-access journals exceed that by one or more orders of magnitude, (see, for example, PNAS, Nature, IEEE, etc.)"
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#8Is there a catch here? That sounds incredible. (edit: I got it backwards. That's horrible.)
The catch is it’s $11000
I mean, I'm coming at this from the perspective of a freelance journalist where sometimes the best rate I can get for a story that took three months to research is $250. Not talking just interviews and finding expert sourcing, but deeply involved work with code, data analysis, data cleanup, etc etc etc, often that nobody else is doing. So, that's pretty fucking good in my book, man.
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#9What in the world? I have a hard time seeing this as anything but a racket, or possibly a legal maneuver to increase standing to sue Sci-Hub or something ("Look, we've offered free access already!")
How much did Nature Neuroscience pay to produce these articles? Do they pay their editors? Their reviewers? The authors?
Do they pay their typesetters?
Do they offer their print journal for free?
Do they have expensive contracts for cloud hosting?
Is the expected lifetime value of any article, let alone every article, anywhere close to $11,390?
Most journals already allow authors to distribute copies by request. This is nuts.
Re: Nature Neuroscience offers open access publishing for $11k per article
#10Who is the target audience here? And who exactly is paying for this? Researchers who care about open access can and do already upload their work to arxiv and/ or scihub in addition to publishing their work in formal venues.
Maybe people whom want to have their papers referenced more often would pay expecting more exposure? Idk, just guessing.