Ironically, the "chart increasing with yen" this was based off of (which was later accepted into Unicode itself) is green in my device's emoji set, as well as the vast majority of other implementations. You would think that one would be the one where the Japenese meaning of the colors was used for sure.
Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#62This is a bit tangential, but I sometimes wish there were a word for the mistake of thinking a convention represents a fundamental property of the thing represented.
Other examples that come to mind:
1. Maps that aren't oriented with north on top
2. U.S. electrical outlets that are "upside-down"
I'm sure there are others, but those are the two that jump to mind.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#63Similar reason why Jenkins CI by default uses blue to indicate success.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#64It starts with knowing why it was originally pronounced "eh-mohjee", and not "ee-mojee". The better question, then, if you really want to learn about culture, is why red is a good color in Japanese culture. I'll just tell you: Red is related to sun symbolizm in Shinto, it scares away evil spirits of 'the dark'. And the Japanese emporer (before McArthur said otherwise) was a sun god (descended from Amaterasu). Some Ja…
I had to look this up, as I (wrongly) thought the etymology was derived from the English "emoticon", but it's not, it is a purely Japanese word.
https://www.sciencefriday.com/articles/the-origin-of-the-wor...
So, yes, you are absolutely right, technically I have been mispronouncing it for almost two decades. I can't stop now though, because everyone else outside Japan is also doing the same.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#65For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!
With the market the way it's been going these days, I think I prefer getting fooled!
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#66It is kinda funny to see the trajectories that the different companies pick. Samsung is the only one that puts a little negative blip at the end of theirs. Apple shows a little blip at the beginning, followed by what appears to be endless, inevitable increase. From 2013-2015, Microsoft put stagnation toward the end of theirs, but then a tiny optimistic increasing trend at the end. However, starting in 2017 they decid…
Samsung seems to put a positive uptick at the end of their chart decreasing emoji.
Also noticed Google and Samsung's ice cube emojis are melting. And Samsung seems to generally be on the generous side of their containers. For example, their salt shaker emoji is mostly full as well as the beer emojis. One of the exceptions is their wine glass emoji.
I don't know why I looked into this at all.
Also neat is what date the calendar emojis show for each platform: https://emojipedia.org/calendar/
> The date shown is July 17. This date was first used by Apple as a reference to when iCal for Mac premiered at MacWorld Expo in 2002.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#67This is a bit tangential, but I sometimes wish there were a word for the mistake of thinking a convention represents a fundamental property of the thing represented. Other examples that come to mind: 1. Maps that aren't oriented with north on top 2. U.S. electrical outlets that are "upside-down" I'm sure there are others, but those are the two that jump to mind.
Funny you mention the outlets. They're actually safer "upside down" because if they get loose and something falls on top, it'll just hit the ground pin instead of possibly creating a circuit across the hot and neutral.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#68I'm red-green colorblind, and for this reason was never allowed in accounting at work. I kid, but it sure does surprise me that so much of the world uses red/green to visualize! Passive-aggressive fun fact: roughly 8% of men have some colorblindness.
> roughly 8% of men have some colorblindness
8% of Northern European males, but this includes all types of color vision deficiency, even those who have limited, but still functional, color vision.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#69For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!
Reminds me of the time I heard from someone much older than me that Democrats and Republicans switched from being red or blue almost every year until 2000 when the election results were so uncertain that people got used to seeing red=Republican and blue=Democrat for weeks and the color scheme just ended up becoming permanent. As a (younger) politics junkie I was shocked even though it makes total sense and I've alway…
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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#70For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag ( https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja ). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!
I know Japan likes red, but I'm surprised that the TSE uses green for a negative/falling connotation. That's not a Japanese cultural thing generally, AFAIK. Is this just a historical path-dependent thing — e.g. stock-exchange trading floors traditionally all buying their sign boards from some specialty company that produced boards specialized to have exactly two "color channels" — red and green — and then, when the T…
You have, like, two natural choices of contrasts to red: green and blue, maybe black/white. There may be more involved reasons why green is more globally common as a second color choice than blue, but I don't think it's surprising that they use a green even without special cultural connotations.